The nail of heaven

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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2013, 08:37:48 pm »
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If its something other than a star it could be over the pole because ... magnets? :P

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2013, 08:37:57 pm »
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Let's combine theories. Maybe it is a star. But one obscenely far away who's light is being glimpsed through a geostationary wormhole generator used by the Inchoroi to arrive at Earwa? Could even be their home star.

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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:05 pm »
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I like it, Sharmat.

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:12 pm »
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i always pictured the nail as a close galaxy. Close in cosmological terms, were details were visible. Also, it could be a nebula or remnants of a supernova. But i like the idea that it is direct related to either inchies travel or the Outside.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:19 pm »
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the name itself is an incredibly enticing metaphor.  In a world where metaphors can be potently real, I wonder...  Perhaps its one of those hidden in plain sight things that will have everyone smacking themselves in disgust when it's revealed to be the actual physical location to which Heaven is Nailed.

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:27 pm »
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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:34 pm »
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Ah yes.  And Golgoterath is the Golden Arches, and Aurang is the Hamburglar.

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:42 pm »
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He certainly burgles something in each novel. *shudder*

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:49 pm »
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2013, 08:38:56 pm »
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I wish i had my copy of the warrior prophet with me (a friend has borrowed it).
The sentence I’m thinking of is in there somewhere, but i can’t remember exactly where.
Maybe you can keep an eye out for it Sideris, what i do remember is Akka searching the holy war camp looking for Esmi.
He emerges from a tent (a prostitute he has visited i think) looks up and describes the Nail in detail.

Actually, I think I've come to that very section and all it mentions at all for the Nail is how '[in the crowd] the odd face frost by the Nail of Heaven's pale light'. And if this is the section (still reading the book) then it must be the Moon or something. That can't be a star. It can't.

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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:04 pm »
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Nope, that’s not it Sideris.
Believe me; you will know when you get to it.
Akka did go into some detail.
I’ve got a nagging feeling it might be in TTT now though  :oops:

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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:12 pm »
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Ahhhh. Well, I'll post here again when I roll around to it. I'm re-reading all the books with a clinical eye and I barely recall some parts of Thousandfold, so it'll be a nice (re)discovery.

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:23 pm »
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It sounds increasingly like the nail is the true center of the universe, rather than the very center of Earwa being the center of the universe.

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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:31 pm »
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Here is a neat video from wiki showing Polaris (our northern pole star) and how the other stars wheel around it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Polaris_motion.ogg

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2013, 08:39:38 pm »
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It sounds increasingly like the nail is the true center of the universe, rather than the very center of Earwa being the center of the universe.


I am no astronmer, but how would that work?  Was it the locus where the Big Bang occurred?  How would it's position remain invariant with respect to a planet?  A pole star, one that defines the north pole with respect to a planet, is much more easy to accept.

(Thanlks to Curethan for posting that clip.  Curiously there is no bright sparkler visible in Earth's southern hemisphere that defines geographic south.)