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How to kill a No-God without a Heron Spear?
Blackstone:
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--- Quote from: Blackstone on March 03, 2016, 11:53:27 pm ---I think one of two ways:
1) Kellhus makes it into the Ark and finds renderings of the Nail of Heaven, which is indeed a mother ship the Inch can't control with the damaged Ark. He then teleports himself to the mother ship, finds a storage locker full of charged plasma cannons, and teleports back. Problem solved.
2) Much more likely, because I believe Kellhus will be the final soul needed to resurrect the No-God and he will therefore be unavailable to save the world, Mimara will invert the chorae on the carapace, causing the No-God to implode. The implosion will also have the added benefit of keeping a new Indigo Plague from spreading across the Ordeal. This will probably happen in the last series because I think the UC will end with Kellhus's death and the No-God's return.
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I know we've been vaguely told this, but I'm not really buying it.
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By Scott? Does anyone know where this is?
H:
--- Quote from: Blackstone on March 04, 2016, 03:15:08 pm ---By Scott? Does anyone know where this is?
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No, in the books, we are told that:
--- Quote ---“The Consult, you realized, were labouring to save their souls. And what was more, if your captives could be believed, they were drawing near the end of their millennial task.”
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Presumably that means the resurrection of the No-God, but I have my doubts.
mrganondorf:
--- Quote from: Blackstone on March 03, 2016, 11:53:27 pm ---I think one of two ways:
1) Kellhus makes it into the Ark and finds renderings of the Nail of Heaven, which is indeed a mother ship the Inch can't control with the damaged Ark. He then teleports himself to the mother ship, finds a storage locker full of charged plasma cannons, and teleports back. Problem solved.
2) Much more likely, because I believe Kellhus will be the final soul needed to resurrect the No-God and he will therefore be unavailable to save the world, Mimara will invert the chorae on the carapace, causing the No-God to implode. The implosion will also have the added benefit of keeping a new Indigo Plague from spreading across the Ordeal. This will probably happen in the last series because I think the UC will end with Kellhus's death and the No-God's return.
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#1 - That's a really convenient way to get rid of Mog!
#2 - This is a fascinating possibility. Mimara did her thing when she was holding the little Chorae--will she need to embrace the Carapace to implode it? That would be a cool scene. Maybe someone flies her up there in a chariot and she hugs it until it cracks and underneath it's ... BAKKER HIMSELF
W00tard:
Hey All--I've been a long time lurker both here and at the asoiaf forum... I don't know if this has been discussed before--certainly not that I've seen. As this is at least tangentially related to the discussion of Kellhus reconstructing the heron spear, it seemed as appropriate a place to put it as any...
Do we know what the technological sophistication of the Dunyain actually is? During one of the flashback scenes I seem to recall that Kellhus thinks to himself that the Neuropuncture technique that allows the Dunyain failures to retain some use (in the face room) was developed something like 300 years before. If that is the case, then it demonstrates a similar level of medical know-how to modern medicine ~300 years prior to the events of the second apocalypse.
Also, given what we know of his training in logic--I strongly suspect that the Dunyain are technologically far more sohisticated than we have yet been shown. This seems likely to be by design as well--if these are analogues to the first and second foundation. Additionally, wouldn't the "mundane" development of non-sorcerous weapons be best achieved by those who operate in the absence of sorcery. Perhaps that's why the Dunyain chiseled the runes off the walls... Just a thought.
Wilshire:
Comes down to need, I think. There is not invention without necessity - this was the lesson of the first foundation.
Could they ahve derived the axioms of physics, electricity, and down along that line of reasonaing, AIs? Probably. But would they bother?
Remember that Kellhus seemed to have never seen the maths taught to him by Achamian during the Holy War. It would be hard to derive computational logistics without math.
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