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Will Akka and co even make it back to the TS?

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ThoughtsOfThelli:

--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 30, 2018, 07:02:46 pm ---Zeum would be the obvious candidate for any resistance on a large scale, as it is the likely the only place with any significant organisational structure left.  Also, I want to to see Zeum :D
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We all want to, and fortunately odds are good that we're going to get our wish. :)



--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 30, 2018, 07:02:46 pm ---The demon was presumably sent for a reason, which must have been something other than simple revenge.  I doubt Kellhus would be that bothered by the Satakhan breaking a treaty, when the Ordeal is within striking distance of Golgotterath.

Just a hunch, but I think there is something significant in Zeum

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I could see Kellhus doing it just for revenge, "decapitating" Zeüm by getting the whole royal family killed. He still went back to kill Fanayal and Psatma Nannaferi, so why not the Satakhan and his family as well? I might be in the minority here, of course.

Something like sorcerous secrets, is that what you were thinking of?

H:

--- Quote from: ThoughtsOfThelli on May 30, 2018, 08:03:05 pm ---I could see Kellhus doing it just for revenge, "decapitating" Zeüm by getting the whole royal family killed. He still went back to kill Fanayal and Psatma Nannaferi, so why not the Satakhan and his family as well? I might be in the minority here, of course.
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Basically all the "old powers" in Eärwa are dead.  The Great Ordeal removed all the nobility from the Three Seas.  Fanayal dies at the head of the Fanim.  And so Kellhus orders the killing of the power that be in Zeüm.  It's a "whole new" world out there now.

MSJ:
Concerning demon Malowebi, Kellhus specifically told him to end the ruler of Zeum's line (family). Nothing more, nothing less. Unless he can communicate by some other means, I don't see demon Malowebi doing anymore than Kellhus bid. After all, thats how all of the Ciphrang Ioyukus summoned behaved. They follow orders to a T, and because they want released back to the Outside. They hate being in the World.

profgrape:

--- Quote from: MSJ on May 30, 2018, 10:54:06 pm ---Concerning demon Malowebi, Kellhus specifically told him to end the ruler of Zeum's line (family). Nothing more, nothing less. Unless he can communicate by some other means, I don't see demon Malowebi doing anymore than Kellhus bid. After all, thats how all of the Ciphrang Ioyukus summoned behaved. They follow orders to a T, and because they want released back to the Outside. They hate being in the World.



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Random question: is Likaro in the line of Nganka'kull?  Or are cousins exempt?  Because if not, "curse Likaro" is going to take on a whole new meaning.

ThoughtsOfThelli:

--- Quote from: H on May 30, 2018, 08:22:53 pm ---Basically all the "old powers" in Eärwa are dead.  The Great Ordeal removed all the nobility from the Three Seas.  Fanayal dies at the head of the Fanim.  And so Kellhus orders the killing of the power that be in Zeüm.  It's a "whole new" world out there now.

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Very good point.



--- Quote from: MSJ on May 30, 2018, 10:54:06 pm ---Concerning demon Malowebi, Kellhus specifically told him to end the ruler of Zeum's line (family). Nothing more, nothing less. Unless he can communicate by some other means, I don't see demon Malowebi doing anymore than Kellhus bid. After all, thats how all of the Ciphrang Ioyukus summoned behaved. They follow orders to a T, and because they want released back to the Outside. They hate being in the World.

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Yes, but the Mbimayu are like the Zeümi Imperial Saik. They will not just stand by and let the royal family get slaughtered. That's why I think their numbers will take quite a hit as well.



--- Quote from: profgrape on May 31, 2018, 01:15:35 am ---Random question: is Likaro in the line of Nganka'kull?  Or are cousins exempt?  Because if not, "curse Likaro" is going to take on a whole new meaning.

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Now, that is an interesting question. I remember Likaro and Malowebi being referred to as cousins of Nganka'kull as well, and I think we have several options here:
-"cousins" is used as a term of respect or something here, like Calmemunis calling Xerius "uncle" in TDTCB, and is therefore not literal;
-you can interpret "the line of Nganka'kull" as the man himself and his descendants, which would mean Likaro will be fine unless he interferes;
-"the line of Nganka'kull" means "every single person related to Nganka'kull", which is bad news for Likaro.

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