Earwa > The No-God
Will Akka and co even make it back to the TS?
ThoughtsOfThelli:
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 31, 2018, 08:27:27 pm ---Not sure really.
We have Domyot, the capital of Zeum, which is the Black Iron City (and built close to a Non-Man Mansion)
We have the Black Iron Seat of Ishterebinth, created when a set of gates were blasted with the Sun Lance.
We have the No God with its Sarcophagus, sometimes described as being of black iron.
Is this just a coincidence?
Out of world, we have the "Black Iron Prison" of Philip K Dick, which as I understand it is a description of the material world and the systems which prevent people going beyond it, to something more spiritual. I've never read anything by Dick, so I might be barking up the wrong tree, but it does sound quite Consulty to me.
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Interesting, you might be on to something there! Though it may be a while until we find out what is (potentially) special about Zeüm.
Never read that either (I did read one or two of Dick's other books, but that was years ago), so let's hope someone who did weighs in on this.
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 31, 2018, 08:28:30 pm ---I forgot all about that :-[
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To be fair, he (presumably) dies off-page, unlike Proyas. And it's easy to forget about him with...well, everything that happens afterward.
TheCulminatingApe:
--- Quote from: ThoughtsOfThelli on May 31, 2018, 08:54:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 31, 2018, 08:27:27 pm ---Not sure really.
We have Domyot, the capital of Zeum, which is the Black Iron City (and built close to a Non-Man Mansion)
We have the Black Iron Seat of Ishterebinth, created when a set of gates were blasted with the Sun Lance.
We have the No God with its Sarcophagus, sometimes described as being of black iron.
Is this just a coincidence?
Out of world, we have the "Black Iron Prison" of Philip K Dick, which as I understand it is a description of the material world and the systems which prevent people going beyond it, to something more spiritual. I've never read anything by Dick, so I might be barking up the wrong tree, but it does sound quite Consulty to me.
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Interesting, you might be on to something there! Though it may be a while until we find out what is (potentially) special about Zeüm.
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A further point on Zeum. Memgowa, the originator of the 'blind beggar brain' , which as far as I know, is the in world equivalent of Bakker's 'blind brain theory' was Zeumi. On the assumption that he has left an intellectual legacy in Zeum, there may be people there that have a better chance of understanding what the No-God is there, than there are elsewhere
profgrape:
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on June 03, 2018, 05:41:13 pm ---
--- Quote from: ThoughtsOfThelli on May 31, 2018, 08:54:34 pm ---
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on May 31, 2018, 08:27:27 pm ---Not sure really.
We have Domyot, the capital of Zeum, which is the Black Iron City (and built close to a Non-Man Mansion)
We have the Black Iron Seat of Ishterebinth, created when a set of gates were blasted with the Sun Lance.
We have the No God with its Sarcophagus, sometimes described as being of black iron.
Is this just a coincidence?
Out of world, we have the "Black Iron Prison" of Philip K Dick, which as I understand it is a description of the material world and the systems which prevent people going beyond it, to something more spiritual. I've never read anything by Dick, so I might be barking up the wrong tree, but it does sound quite Consulty to me.
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Interesting, you might be on to something there! Though it may be a while until we find out what is (potentially) special about Zeüm.
--- End quote ---
A further point on Zeum. Memgowa, the originator of the 'blind beggar brain' , which as far as I know, is the in world equivalent of Bakker's 'blind brain theory' was Zeumi. On the assumption that he has left an intellectual legacy in Zeum, there may be people there that have a better chance of understanding what the No-God is there, than there are elsewhere
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Excellent observation! I don’t think we ever got a sense of how the Zeumi even think about the Apocalypse. The idea of ending the cycle of birth seems like it would throw a big wrench in the whole idea of ancestor worship.
ThoughtsOfThelli:
--- Quote from: profgrape on June 04, 2018, 02:56:50 am ---
--- Quote from: TheCulminatingApe on June 03, 2018, 05:41:13 pm ---A further point on Zeum. Memgowa, the originator of the 'blind beggar brain' , which as far as I know, is the in world equivalent of Bakker's 'blind brain theory' was Zeumi. On the assumption that he has left an intellectual legacy in Zeum, there may be people there that have a better chance of understanding what the No-God is there, than there are elsewhere
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Excellent observation! I don’t think we ever got a sense of how the Zeumi even think about the Apocalypse. The idea of ending the cycle of birth seems like it would throw a big wrench in the whole idea of ancestor worship.
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I second what profgrape said, yet another great catch there, TheCulminatingApe.
Memgowa does seem to have left a lasting intellectual legacy in his home country. I remember Malowebi referring to his old mentor as a "true disciple of Memgowa" or something similar. Hopefully some of the greatest minds in modern-day Zeüm will become allies to Akka and co. in the future. He certainly needs some good ones...
Also a good point, profgrape. It makes me wonder if after the First Apocalypse, the people of Zeüm became even more zealous in their ancestor worship, having lost that connection once before. (I don't think it only became part of their culture then, it seems to be older than that.) They will certainly know what the Boding means, that's one of the (many) reasons why I feel it would be important to have a Zeümi POV (probably someone from Nganka'kull's court) early on, before our protagonists get there (if they ever do).
themerchant:
Akka is qirri infused but reeling at the moment. He's smarter than he was.
Also Akka must have a reservoir of water inside him.
He can outrun the sranc in the air using magic.
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