Then Kellhus is trying to help Akka along the way. He is goading him to continue to Ishual. The way is far and arduous, and since it seems like Kellhus wants Akka to find Ishual, then its likely another crutch for the old man.
I do disagree, though, that the PoN dreams are less connected to the timing of events. The only example I can come up with right now is in TDTCB just before Kellhus arrives on scene, Akka dreams the night before of the Celmoman Prophesy. The very next day, the Harbinger comes. The POVs are split and separated more, and I think the timing of the dreams and what they portend might be more obfuscated in PoN, but the meanings are still there.
I don't think they do, but I have no proof. We know, at least, that the intensity of the dreams seems to be shared, based on Nautzera's commentary to Akka. This might point to them having the same dreams, but not necessarily. For some reason I think they all dream different dreams.
It says in the text, either TJE or WLW, that Kellhus is the only schoolman with the gnosis that did not grasp the heart.
I like that idea Som. Especially since that would make it a mistake, and I do love Kellhus' mistakes.
"Do you know," he asks, exhaling a cloud of sweet-smelling smoke. "why Seswatha left us his dreams?"
She knows the answer. Her mother always resorted to talk of Achamian to salve the abrasians between her and her embittered daughter. Because he was her real father, Mimara had always thought. "To assure the School of mandate never forgets, never loses sight of its mission."
"That's what they say," Achamian replies, savouring his smoke. "That the Dreams are a goad to action, a call to arms. That by suffering the First Apocalypse over and over, we had no choice but to war against the possibility of the Second."
"You think otherwise?"
A shadow falls across his face. "I think the your adoptive father, our glorious, all-conquering Aspect-Emperor, is right." The hatred is plain in his voice.
"Kellhus?" she asks.
An old man shrug -- an ancient gesture hung on failing bones. "He says it himself, Every life is a cipher..." Another deep inhalation. A riddle."
"And you think Seswatha's life is such."
"I know it is."
So, not Celmomas, Genrelka. Seems to be a mistake of speculation and 'facts'.QuoteGanrelka’s uncle, who’d led the heartbreaking assault on Golgotterath’s gates in the early days of the Apocalypse, hung from a rope in his chambers, slowly twisting in a draft.
Ganrelka was rescued from the Fields of Elenëot by five Knights of Trysë. We as readers know this because we were told and saw him in this prologue, but the people of Eärwa were most likely told that he died on the battlefield. What better way to smuggle him into Ishuäl unbeknownst to anyone than to declare him dead?(click to show/hide)
...and elsewhere we are told that it was Celmomas who lead the heartbreaking assault on the Golgotterath’s gates in the early days of the Apocalypse.
It might have been General Sag-Marmau, who led the Second Investiture, hanging from the rope. That one was probably more heartbreaking since it ended with the awakening of the no-god whereas the first dispersed due to fragmentation and surprise Sranc assaults.
Sag-Margmau and the greater glory of Kuniuri were annihilated.
Who? Me? I think I might have gotten a couple of things mixed up in there, but I definitely still believe that it was Celmomas who was hanging from a rope in the prologue.Nah you were good. I was using your quote of quotes to clarify the situation locke et al was talking about above me.
It might have been General Sag-Marmau, who led the Second Investiture, hanging from the rope. That one was probably more heartbreaking since it ended with the awakening of the no-god whereas the first dispersed due to fragmentation and surprise Sranc assaults.
Traditionally, scholars date the beginning of the Apocalypse with Anasûrimbor Celmomas II's call for a holy war against Golgotterath, his Great Ordeal...
Are you sure about this? TTT's glossary mentions during the Great Investiture, there were a number of "disasterous" assaults. But I've been unable to find a reference that links Celmomas to a specific assault on Golgotterath's gates.
"And of course the next night it was back to the Dreams as I knew them. Back to the blood and the fire and the horror. A year passed, maybe more..."
It would be incredible if Kellhus' abilities have come so far that he could faifthfully rebuild those lost classic texts by virtue of pure deduction and the time he's spent in the Three Seas.
Golgotteranth Is deep with tunnels in and out, did the barricades go all the way down? Did they excavate around the ark to build the nimil down? Could kellhus fold space to crush the ark? Salvage the nimil for uses of the great ordeal?
All typ0s courtesy of Samsung.
Would be real hard for Moe to do that being that he's dead and all. If he ascended into some kind of god-hood, then I suppose he could do such things.