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General Earwa / Re: Nail of Heaven & the Golden Ark
« on: June 11, 2016, 01:21:50 am »
Quote from: MSJ on June 10, 2016, 10:52:40 pm
Well, yea, I think that's what it implies. I was just stating that the NoH was there before the Inchoroi arrival, regardless if it was the portal they used to actually make it to Earwa. I really like the theory that it's a literal portal to the Outside and that's what makes Earwa special out of all the world's the Inchoroi visited.

ETA: I was just clarifying that the Inchoroi's arrival is not whatcreated the NoH.

Oh, gotcha.

But... I wonder what Wert's source on that is.  In The False Sun, Bakker tells us that the Nonmen's name for the Nail, Imburil, means "The Newborn."  That implies to me that at some point in their history it didn't exist.

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General Earwa / Re: Nail of Heaven & the Golden Ark
« on: June 10, 2016, 10:27:56 pm »
Quote from: MSJ on June 10, 2016, 09:44:47 pm
Well, in Wert's blog, History of Earwa, the new info revealed was that the Nonman observed the NoH flare up for awhile then go back to normal. Then, 3 years later the Inchoroi arrived via the Ark. So, it wasn't created by the arrival of the Inchoroi. Though, what it actually is, and why it flared and so forth, I have no idea.

I don't think that precludes the connection.  Our own polestar is 433 light-years away from us.  We know the Nail must be very, very far from Earwa, or it wouldn't remain a polestar as the planet moves around its sun, and the sun moves around galactic central, etc.  3 years for a vessel to reach Earwa from the Nail seems pretty reasonable, especially when you consider it takes much longer than that for us to reach planets in our own solar system.

I haven't read Wert's history yet, but I'm pretty sure the books mentioned the connection already.  I just can't remember where...

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General Earwa / Re: Nail of Heaven & the Golden Ark
« on: June 10, 2016, 08:49:35 pm »
I love the sci-fi influences in the series.  As someone who didn't like fantasy growing up, it was an pleasant surprise to see it sneaking in.

It's worth noting that the Nail is a polestar (or pole-wormhole, or whatever), specifically the northern polestar.  Assuming its appearance is related to the Ark's arrival, it makes me wonder just how far north the old north actually is.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 10, 2016, 03:46:32 pm »
Prediction: Akka kneels

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 10, 2016, 03:45:35 pm »
Question: WHAT DOES HE SEE?  TELL ME.

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General Earwa / Kellhus and the Absolute
« on: June 09, 2016, 11:30:27 pm »
The Warrior-Prophet seems to drop a big clue about the Absolute (and hence, the presumptive mission of the Dunyain), but I haven't heard any discussion of it.
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"How does one learn innocence?  How does one teach ignorance? [...] They are the Absolute."
-ANONYMOUS, THE IMPROMPTA
Chapter 10, p 198 in my copy.  It's one of the quotes that opens the chapter.  For those who don't recognize the source:
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And so began what Achamian came to call "The Imprompta," the nightly talks--almost sermons--Kellhus started giving the Men of the Tusk.
So do you think the quote is from Kellhus?  It would certainly help explain Bakker's claim that "there is a manner in which Serwe is the most important character".

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:03:15 pm »
Prediction: The third trilogy will be called "The God" (okay, maybe that won't happen in TGO).

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 09:02:09 pm »
Prediction: we find out a major character (probably Akka) has Nonman blood.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 08:51:21 pm »
I also want to find out if Bakker's claim from an interview is correct:
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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 08:40:39 pm »
I hope to find out if the Solitary God is as real as The Hundred.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 08:38:58 pm »
Prediction: we will find out that the question "is Kellhus mad?" is itself misleading.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 09, 2016, 03:18:31 pm »
I hope to find out the true nature of the Heron Spear.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 08, 2016, 11:30:18 pm »
Prediction: a connection between the Nail of Heaven and the Incu-Holoinas will be revealed.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Excerpt Spoilers] The Great Ordeal ARC Giveaway
« on: June 08, 2016, 11:29:15 pm »
I want to find out the ultimate fate of Cnaiur urs Skiotha, Chieftan of the Utemot, Most Violent of All Men, Breaker of Horses and Men, and possible Vessel of Gilgaol.  I refuse to believe he died, at least in the sense we understand it.

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