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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Kelmomas Skills
« on: February 08, 2017, 01:06:49 am »
Fate, specifically, seems unlikely to exist. A god of fate would/should be the most powerful god. It should controlling everything, all of time, etc.
But Azathoth! Also, dunyain among humans = fate gods among, emm, more baseline gods?
Oh, and I`m actually ashamed of my "swoop in, drop mischievous comment, run!" behaviour.

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I dunno if that's a "good" deceit or a "bad" one.

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1. Some surprising approach to Anasurimbor person from Celmomian Prophecy. A descendant of the First Apocalypse war captives; a dunyain renegade; a tekne reconstruction from multiple sources; etc. Bonus points if a full member of the Consult and have never ever met Cnaiur, yet.
2. Parallel plots and accidents which take the same place but occur throught different times (First & Second Apocalypse, Cuno-Inchoroic wars & Great Ordeals). Just for the sake of time abyss -- f.e. when later heroes take cover behind fallen monument which crushed their predecessors to death or was collapsed by their onslaught.
3. Fortunate & unlucky attemps of ordealsmen using pieces of the Tekne (taken as war spoils & throught feverish excavations). Sibawul te Nurwul with jetpack! Or in a soggomant zorb, running around, who knows.
4. New and/or unknown schools of sorcery.
5. Meta-tekne.

I know most of them silly, but.

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General Q&A / Re: Proyas's mother [Q&A]
« on: September 02, 2016, 06:52:53 pm »
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even more than with his legendary mother.
It seems like she's sharing her type of legendarity with Hanalinqû.
A hidden, secred one, never-to-be-actually-mentioned one.  xD

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO SPOILERS] What's Missing from TGO
« on: August 09, 2016, 08:34:48 pm »
"Tell my brother..."
What the fuck was Maithanet's final message going to be?
"... -- he's my son from now on". An insult.

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The Great Ordeal / (TGO Spoilers) Cunuroi & Height
« on: July 27, 2016, 02:51:39 pm »
Are there any, if approximate, ideas about propotiong between common & tall cunuroi?
It seems common are about 1.8m-2.2m (plus all of the same height) and tall are minimum 3.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: (TGO SPOILERS) Trees
« on: July 27, 2016, 02:42:55 pm »
I think it's mostly about ivoking a suitable trope.
Tree have a long history as an expression tool for metaphysics etc.


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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Overall thoughts on the book?
« on: July 23, 2016, 04:43:45 pm »
and those anti-dunyain thralls they bred
Could you elaborate, please? It's about emwame servile behaviour or there is something else I've completely missed? Thanks in advance!

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Author Q&A / Re: Wracu and Chorae
« on: July 22, 2016, 11:54:08 pm »
Wracu, some argue, are demonic in some respect.
It's possible that wracu relates to ciphrang as sranc relates to cunuroi?

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The Great Ordeal / Re: Who are the Dûnyain?
« on: July 22, 2016, 11:43:53 pm »
The Dunyain are the most pure remains of the Solitary God's super-ego.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Kelmomas Skills
« on: July 18, 2016, 05:36:47 pm »
But having a soul does not grant you the ability to use sorcery, you must also be able to see the Onta.

Exactly. Like, duniyains have advanced cognition, thus their souls are more complex and push the whole subspecie closer to ability to mess with onta. Or am I still missing something?

It seems like soul is something growing on the ground of intelligence. And there is a certain moment when it grows large enough to be able to dominate the environment of said intelligence, to become a medium between consciousness and reality, to make sorcery possible.
Btw, maybe that's the reason monks tried to forget all magic? They saw the whole anagogic-gnostic-metagnostic refinement as deceptive dead end, a distraction from breeding a truly gargantuan soul which is actually capable for permanent substitution/digestion/domination of reality.

That can't be the case or an ensouled skin-spy would not be a unique thing, but required for it to exist.

Speaking about that special skinspy, I see two mutually exclusive possibilities.

1) He is ur-skinspy, his soul is totally equal to both human & the Few. Gods can actually see him because of that, just as they saw guys like Shauritas. Or they sometimes cannot, for now we know about nonmen Threshholds (soggomantic cell similar to faraday's cage?).
2) It is common skinspy, and it's sorcery (the reason it is somehow supposed to be him) are not actually it's. Thing called Simas was desined as vehicle for remote operator akin to inchoroi Syntese, complete with the ability to manifest some lesser Cants on the thing's end. In this case, Gods are blind.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Kelmomas Skills
« on: July 18, 2016, 07:11:23 am »
Intelligence without a soul is what they cant see.
As I got it, in bakkerverse intelligence and soul (also, intelligence and ability to mess with onta) are tied together like factory and it's product, like cause and result. Though I'm having a big difficult of quantifying/qualifying things here.

Him being invisible in the same way the consult machinations are seems like a fairly likely situation, but I can't seem to make sense of it
I've remembered an old theory of mine, maybe we can use it here.

1) Gods are so beyond of mortals' entanglement with time. Every one of them is a sum of all possible timelines, divided by exact principle like fertility, conflict, fate etc. It's easy to visualize such thing as 3D-puzzle (∞D, actually) or as regulatory and coding regions of a DNA gene.
2) Having a way to be in every possible situation, gods actually have constant and different experiences of their own undoings due to uncountable reasons.
3) On the one hand, they are "accustomed" to such experience. To them it's just an everlasting border of their existence, just like field of view or memory threshold for human.
4) On the other hand, such experience is so overwhelming it "leaks back" onto it's critical reasons -- places, people, concepts, etc -- and makes exact details highly unrecognizable, if not insignificant.
5) Thus an intelligence without a soul & a little boy Kelmomas may share just one quality. Their phenomenon somehow directly leads to gods' undoing, probably through different and unrelated means. But it's not a big deal for gods, for they just lose interest in such timeline, focusing on possibilities where Arc never landed, Kelmomas was drowned for deformity, Kellhus is narindared.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Kellhus
« on: July 16, 2016, 01:24:33 pm »
At the same time, it's too much for me that Kellhus already knows about the effects of nuclear fallout and radiation poisoning mere moments after it goes off.
No-God's destruction had a similar outcome, so nuclear tekne seems to be rather ancient. Consult could have used few bomb in the FA, leaving both ground signs and survivors' descriptions (diaries etc, which never left besieged northen fortressed). With his pocket teleporter Kellhus could actually took these knowlegde form his own field scouting and intel plundering.

Also, metagnosis, cants who deliver the generalization of the ground.

PS So, did someone nuke No-God in the FA?

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO Spoilers] Kelmomas Skills
« on: July 14, 2016, 07:27:08 pm »
ETA: question - if the Gods are blind to the Consult, then how are they even damned?

1) The separation of powers? Thas goes nicely with the fractured nature of the solitary god.
One is invisible for gods, who develop laws and eat criminals as a food. One is rather visible for most of the laws (damnation, mortality, sequacity for sorcery and causality, gravitation, topoisation etc), though can cheat like Shauritas. One is sooo visible for those, whose duty is to force law (ciphrangs are undergods, their domains of stength and weakness should differ from the big players).
Let's say, gods just have a problem to recognize a certain big problem and to issue a special quick solution. But that doesn't guarantee "full methaphysical immunity", for such creature will fall right through the creation. Like, you know, Jules Verne's invisible men is impossible -- for his eyes are insivible too and so he's blind, immune to the light iself.

2) Damnation is a legacy of solitary god and the Hundred are just survivors trying to make their living?

PS Crackpot: whole Tekne invisibility is not abysmall system bug; just a fresh blasphemy when there is no competent shaman, priest, sorcerer etc to snitch the concept to the Hundreds.

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The Great Ordeal / [TGO Spoilers] Kelmomas Skills
« on: July 14, 2016, 02:09:09 am »
I was kinda confused about little Kel and his ability to mess with WLW powers; had to made a soothing theory.

1) We knows gods are blind to certain things: No-God existence, Consult plans etc. There is guess that Tekne makes borders of gods' blindspot and, more specifically, it's distinctive product -- intelligence, which lacks "proper" concience or "enough" complexity. Correct me if I wrong here, please.
2) Kelmomas mother had a very close contact with Tekne, I mean than identity theft of Kellhus by Aurang.
3) Being of Kellhus children, Kel is a broken dunyain thing, which by itself has a certain taste of near-Tekne experience.
4) His POVs are all about personality problems, about rule "one head, one voice" being constantly violated.

So at least I reckon Kelmomas is somehow hidden from Gods eyesight thanks to a combination of few factors listed above. At most -- his metaphysical position is symmetricaly opposed to WLW. Either way, boy can fuck up other's plans, especially if they are godly.

PS That can be a possible answer to a question why Kellhus didn't drowned him in the first place.
PPS Dunno now, if Ajokli is an actual trickster god or it's a placeholder name for a sum of gods' debility manifested in the world.
PPPS What have I done. -.-

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