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But the why of it emerging has no tether to it's component parts is not certain and still likely not a waste of time to study even if true such research gets us no further in that specific direction. The stack yields something that is a mystery of how it can do so - as long as it's a mystery, studying in all directions seems warranted. They may be right in that the community has blind spots, but to outright call it as "the wrong direction", doesn't appear their argumentation is convincing, but I concede this is just an annotate of a likely bigger work/thought, so maybe their entire treatise has legs.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Culture Industry
« on: March 03, 2020, 08:28:45 pm »
This is more easily seen in politics - connect with dissatisfaction and you can get elected, you don't have to address the issue once elected, mission accomplished. And I say this as someone who enjoys politics. It's simply monumentally easier/more fun to raise hell and express that sentiment by supporting an election - much more work/not fun to get elected people to do something.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Culture Industry
« on: March 03, 2020, 08:26:30 pm »
I updated my post - I should've finished it before responding, his final point is excellent. I think he's on to something with the catharsis experienced watching/buying revolution ( or whatever dissatisfaction of the day ) in lieu of acting on it. That is going on - all sorts of social issues are treated in popular culture which do not drive/inspire something be done about it. Just the awareness ( enjoyment? ) of the problem solves it.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Culture Industry
« on: March 03, 2020, 07:44:16 pm »
I haven't finished watching it, about 11 minutes in - interesting discussion. I would say that there's some truth to this, but I don't see it the same way. The problem with statements ( bp ) like capitalism -> unacceptable income disparity -> pop culture quashes revolution is the subtext that it's by design. Our increase in our standard of living can account for that just as easily. Freedom of speech can as well ( we can freely see we all disagree - revolution requires cohesion to flame ). Plenty of "poor" kids in this country wearing brand new $1,000 shoes. Which came first - the demand for popular culture or the design/selling of popular culture. We're going to see all kinds of patterns in complex connected systems for which modern democracies have grown up to be. Patterns can be organic, circumstantial or simply perceived falsely - conspiracy is a common conclusion of the those "interested" but not interested enough to round out their research.

Anyways - I'm going to finish it and spend more time on my thinking, just wanted to jot this down so I don't forget my first impressions. It's good stuff, I'm not being "critical", just adding to the conversation that many observations on our culture/reality have some truth and interesting insights, but none seem to capture the whole picture - maybe because we honestly don't agree, honestly can't see the same things and the complexity of life is simply too much for any one "capture" to be accurate - and even if/when someone does "speak truth", change makes it harder still ( what's true today may not be tomorrow ). I think it would be a more powerful presentation without judgement ( don't use words like bleak, etc ).

Even if it's all true - maybe worth it to have a life with decreasing civil violence, stability, time for family, etc. I would happily throw all of this in the trash for time with my family, etc.

EDIT: aaah, now that I've finished it ( stupid of me to comment before doing so ), it's end point is excellent - the catharsis of watching social justice stymieing social justice. that is pretty good.

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Semantic Apocalypse in Space?
« on: March 03, 2020, 02:44:57 am »
Well, we are leaving, just a matter of when. When our sun red dwarfs, there's a good chance we'll survive it - just have to move the earth to a further away from the sun ( we're close to being able to do that now and we have millions of years to figure it out ). But even as a red dwarf, one day the sun will die and so will humanity if we don't get out of here. Now - if there's not such thing as interstellar travel ( i.e. not possible ), then we're screwed, there's simply no way to keep humans alive during light years of travel - maybe in the future we'll have the ability to seed other planets and there will be gaps of no living humans in the future, but that will depend on developing dependable technology that can survive years ( thousands? millions? ) of deep space travel with no accidents and no mechanized failures. If AI advances enough, maybe we can pull it off ( machines with advance abilities to address problems during deep space ). Anyways - we will be leaving some day and it's good to bring this stuff up now to assist in developing processes/agreements to handle the politics of divergent civilizations.

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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: March 02, 2020, 07:21:30 pm »
Apologies for being unkind, but His Dark Materials is a weird fucking show.

(click to show/hide)

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Philosophy & Science / Re: Why your brain is not a computer
« on: February 28, 2020, 12:50:34 am »
What will happen if we make a breakthrough, I wonder ... if we do, then I think we'll be able to make a brain - will it be conscious ... interesting stuff, Sci

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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Gamification of Public Discourse
« on: February 28, 2020, 12:35:06 am »
Yes, I love this stuff. I don't always have the time to read if life sweeps me away, but I have been able to check out most of what's posted here.

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General Misc. / Re: Strings
« on: February 25, 2020, 04:33:38 pm »
This poll was really meant to resurrect our discussion on consciousness - I feel like talking about it again. Sci has posted a ton of cool stuff and musing it all over, wondering if I/we are closer to understanding it or just vetted out more possibilities of what it could/couldn't be.

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General Misc. / Re: Strings
« on: February 25, 2020, 01:30:32 am »
I could see all of the above in a Non-dualist sense, where Awareness is the juxtaposition "between" and "around" Form and Formlessness...

That might be closest to how I think of things...

Interesting - can you describe or give examples of what you're saying? Like "what" is formlessness.

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General Misc. / Re: Strings
« on: February 24, 2020, 11:33:14 pm »
Why isn't there an "All The Above" option?  I want to vote that.

Oh, just pick one! LOL!

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General Misc. / Strings
« on: February 24, 2020, 05:51:33 pm »
So we don't know where thoughts come from. What is your best guess? Select "You" if you think you ever, even just once in your lifetime, create your own thought(s).

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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: February 23, 2020, 08:10:41 pm »
I've watched both seasons of Manhunt. The first season was on Discovery channel, wasn't renewed and then Spectrum had a second season done.

Both were very good. The first/Manhunt was a bit better then the second/Deadly Games, but still very good. The first was on Ted Kaczynski and depending on how accurate, was a mad hunt for the dude and they almost missed him. The second was on Richard Jewel who was falsely implicated by the FBI and the Media. The real killer was Eric Rudolph. It was painful watching how irresponsible ( criminal? ) the media was in destroying Jewel's life, an innocent man. Interestingly, appears both Ted and Eric are in cells near each other in same super max prison in Colorado. Anyways, if you dig true crime stuff, these dramatizations are pretty good. The rendition of the FBI in both aren't flattering and if they're accurate, time to fix that shit, embarrassing.

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General Misc. / Re: Doki Doki Literature Club (Trigger Warning: EVERYTHING)
« on: February 23, 2020, 07:37:28 pm »
I clicked on the link ... don't understand it, what's the deal?

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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« on: February 07, 2020, 03:01:14 am »
Dublin Murders

Excellent! Don't get the 7.1 IMDB rating, guess I'm watching a different show. The dialogue is worth the watch alone. Gets an A+ from me.

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