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General Earwa / Re: Sorcery
« on: February 07, 2014, 12:56:47 am »
Trying to find a sorcery thread in a subforum i can talk about everything.
for sorcery we know meaning is everything. and to keep purity of meaning they use a dead nonman languge (nilguynic or something).
during TWP when Kellhus is building up the awe Akka feels for him he proves there is more basic logic in language (i think i hope i'm right) something about relations between whole sentences rather than subjects and predicates.
So obviously Kellhus understands language and it's structure as well/better as any person alive, why couldn't he create his own language for cants using his advanced knowledge of language that allows even more purity of recitation. Akka has already said that other schools use other languages.
for sorcery we know meaning is everything. and to keep purity of meaning they use a dead nonman languge (nilguynic or something).
during TWP when Kellhus is building up the awe Akka feels for him he proves there is more basic logic in language (i think i hope i'm right) something about relations between whole sentences rather than subjects and predicates.
So obviously Kellhus understands language and it's structure as well/better as any person alive, why couldn't he create his own language for cants using his advanced knowledge of language that allows even more purity of recitation. Akka has already said that other schools use other languages.
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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Heramari Iyokus
« on: February 06, 2014, 11:43:55 pm »
Trying to find a sorcery thread in a subforum i can talk about everything.
for sorcery we know meaning is everything. and to keep purity of meaning they use a dead nonman languge (nilguynic or something).
during TWP when Kellhus is building up the awe Akka feels for him he proves there is more basic logic in language (i think i hope i'm right) something about relations between whole sentences rather than subjects and predicates.
So obviously Kellhus understands language and it's structure as well/better as any person alive, why couldn't he create his own language for cants using his advanced knowledge of language that allows even more purity of recitation. Akka has already said that other schools use other languages.
for sorcery we know meaning is everything. and to keep purity of meaning they use a dead nonman languge (nilguynic or something).
during TWP when Kellhus is building up the awe Akka feels for him he proves there is more basic logic in language (i think i hope i'm right) something about relations between whole sentences rather than subjects and predicates.
So obviously Kellhus understands language and it's structure as well/better as any person alive, why couldn't he create his own language for cants using his advanced knowledge of language that allows even more purity of recitation. Akka has already said that other schools use other languages.
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The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: Conspiracy or paranoia?
« on: February 06, 2014, 08:25:37 pm »QuoteHow about - the buildings were never actually destroyed! Just by an elaborate set of mirrors and public assumptions, they hide in the one spot no one looks!
Lol. I think I will present this to one of my wackier friends as an actual theory:)QuoteI don't read as much it can be very overwhelming. Thinking you're falling down the old rabbit hole.
Yes, there are so many traps to fall into when you first start to engage yourself, surfing around, watching all these dodgy videos out there, never knowing which "expert" is the right one, and the media is all over the place.(long sentence I know).
My point is that it gets very confusing, so I just landed on the conclusion that this is a very tricky and dense topic to really grasp the "truth" of what is going on.
Indeed for example i have "read" all three of the papers i listed above, but looking at it myself i have no idea what it shows, i can only trust in the expertise and consensus of the academics.
It's my favourite subject in much the same way as running your tongue over a loose tooth becomes your favourite action.
I tend to read books about past subjects now, and there has been a para-political magazine in the UK for 30 odd years now. IT is published about twice a year, called Lobster magazine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_%28magazine%29 .
My biggest "conspiracy theory" was Lance Armstrong though i talked about that for a dozen years or so. So i'll take false security of being correct in that one, means i'm not totally kooky for believing there is dodgy other events.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Therapeutic Value of Psychedelics and other drugs
« on: February 06, 2014, 07:45:46 pm »
Yes i do 
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General Earwa / Re: Comparable Earth Races in Earwa
« on: February 06, 2014, 07:29:54 pm »And then there's a problem with Scylvendi, who have pale skins, pale blue eyes and yet dark hair. Now that is a combination which is rather hard to find anywhere on Earth, as pale skin and pale eyes are generally accompanied by blonde or reddish hair.
Unless it's in my family where everyone has pale skin blue eyes and dark hair, although i guess i'm of Celtic origin. So quite a few folk have ginger hair.
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Philosophy & Science / Re: The Therapeutic Value of Psychedelics and other drugs
« on: February 06, 2014, 07:01:40 pm »
I've always thought that certain drugs were illegal because it keeps the money off the books. Allowing others to sell and distribute off-record.
We found out in Iran-contra that the CIA were quite happy to run drugs and sell them to replace the cash that congress were denying them.
The CIA also helped Chiang kai-shek sell opium so he could fund his fight .
Plus many other allegations.
In the book "the untouchables" which is mainly about the scandals of the met(metropolitan police) for the last 40 years, drug running investigations were spiked. Drugs and guns in northern ireland as well during the height of the troubles.
I've taken several psychedelic drugs before, but not in years.
I've taken Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty caps) which grow in a field 10 minute walk from me. Plus a few other strains as well as LSD, and heavy amounts of ingested cannabis which gave a trippy effect.
It's an interesting experience and amongst my friends we all agree you get a sense of the connectiveness of everything, which might very well be how the thing work, it also disolves the ego somewhat, and had some great conversations about fears and worries without any sort of social hang-up.
I shall now go read the thread
We found out in Iran-contra that the CIA were quite happy to run drugs and sell them to replace the cash that congress were denying them.
The CIA also helped Chiang kai-shek sell opium so he could fund his fight .
Plus many other allegations.
In the book "the untouchables" which is mainly about the scandals of the met(metropolitan police) for the last 40 years, drug running investigations were spiked. Drugs and guns in northern ireland as well during the height of the troubles.
I've taken several psychedelic drugs before, but not in years.
I've taken Psilocybe semilanceata (liberty caps) which grow in a field 10 minute walk from me. Plus a few other strains as well as LSD, and heavy amounts of ingested cannabis which gave a trippy effect.
It's an interesting experience and amongst my friends we all agree you get a sense of the connectiveness of everything, which might very well be how the thing work, it also disolves the ego somewhat, and had some great conversations about fears and worries without any sort of social hang-up.
I shall now go read the thread
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The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: Conspiracy or paranoia?
« on: February 06, 2014, 12:33:29 pm »
Aye i'm aware of it. I first became interested (in the veracity of official naratives) because of the Lockerbie bombing, i live not to far from there, small community, and most people i know don't even think Libya did it let alone El-Megahari who was sent to prison for it.
I don't read as much it can be very overwhelming. Thinking you're falling down the old rabbit hole.
We have our independence vote this year, the press coverage is incredibly biased , even an academic report showed the state broadcaster was being biased towards the status quo. which the BBC responded to by complaining to his boss at the university. Which in turn just made the whole mess blow up and instead of suppressing the report loads of folk who wouldn't have heard about it subsequently heard about it.
So my energies at the moment are reading about the varying consequences ofg independence.
I don't read as much it can be very overwhelming. Thinking you're falling down the old rabbit hole.
We have our independence vote this year, the press coverage is incredibly biased , even an academic report showed the state broadcaster was being biased towards the status quo. which the BBC responded to by complaining to his boss at the university. Which in turn just made the whole mess blow up and instead of suppressing the report loads of folk who wouldn't have heard about it subsequently heard about it.
So my energies at the moment are reading about the varying consequences ofg independence.
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The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: Conspiracy or paranoia?
« on: February 06, 2014, 11:08:10 am »
It does work as disinformation, the tendency is to group them as conspiracy people, even though they will believe different things, so you just need a useful idiot like jones to drone on about illuminati bavarian death cults or particle beam weapons or no planes. It poisons the well. Good luck anyone trying to get any information about 9/11 now, so many crazy kooky videos about it.
The Anthrax letters are extremely dodgy, they were written out to look like they were sent by arab terorists, the security services claimed they had seen Atta get the Anthrax from Iraqi agents in Prague. this was used to show that Iraq helped al Qeada and they had chemical weapons making capability.
However once the actual science got involved turns out it was weaponised American Anthrax from Fort Dettrick, specifically the Ames strain. So it wasn't sent by Atta, but it was sent from where the narrative said the hijackers were living. So someone knew they were living there and sent the anthrax.
The put options that indicate insider trading on 9/11 as well. the main problem is i'm not educated enough to be able to fully critically assess a lot of this information, probably most of it.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1588523
Allen M Poteshman: “Unusual Option Market Activity and the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001″, published in The Journal of Business, University of Chicago Press, 2006, Vol 79, Edition 4, page 1703-1726.
Conclusion from Poteshman “Examination of the option trading leading up to September 11 reveals that there was an unusually high level of put buying. This finding is consistent with informed investors having traded options in advance of the attacks.”
Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri and Loriano Mancini: “Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Option Markets”, University of Zurich, April 2010, www.bf.uzh.ch/publikationen/pdf/publ_2098.pdf
The Anthrax letters are extremely dodgy, they were written out to look like they were sent by arab terorists, the security services claimed they had seen Atta get the Anthrax from Iraqi agents in Prague. this was used to show that Iraq helped al Qeada and they had chemical weapons making capability.
However once the actual science got involved turns out it was weaponised American Anthrax from Fort Dettrick, specifically the Ames strain. So it wasn't sent by Atta, but it was sent from where the narrative said the hijackers were living. So someone knew they were living there and sent the anthrax.
The put options that indicate insider trading on 9/11 as well. the main problem is i'm not educated enough to be able to fully critically assess a lot of this information, probably most of it.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1588523
Allen M Poteshman: “Unusual Option Market Activity and the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001″, published in The Journal of Business, University of Chicago Press, 2006, Vol 79, Edition 4, page 1703-1726.
Conclusion from Poteshman “Examination of the option trading leading up to September 11 reveals that there was an unusually high level of put buying. This finding is consistent with informed investors having traded options in advance of the attacks.”
Marc Chesney, Remo Crameri and Loriano Mancini: “Detecting Informed Trading Activities in the Option Markets”, University of Zurich, April 2010, www.bf.uzh.ch/publikationen/pdf/publ_2098.pdf
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The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: Conspiracy or paranoia?
« on: February 05, 2014, 10:44:53 pm »One expert/scientist says this and another something else, so who do you believe?
And to me, my threshold of coincidence is somewhere around the "running the same" war-games; I don't know what the frequency of "ok, girls and boys, today we're pretending terrorists are capturing planes to use as bombs" but the statistical chances minimize with every correspondence.
Same with the 7/7 bombings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKvkhe3rqtc
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The Forum of Interesting Things / Re: Conspiracy or paranoia?
« on: February 05, 2014, 10:40:43 pm »
the problem with trying to parse what happened with the buildings brought down by aeroplanes and the WTC7 is all the material has been shipped away, so that horse has bolted anyway.
A lot of the 9/11 truthers seem to buy into nonsense like "pods" "no planes" missle hit the pentagon. The people were swapped out at an airforce base etc etc.
Now if the attack was planned, then of course you saturate the market with dis-information anyway.
The fact that both american and israeli security forces said that they observed Mohammed Atta in a meeting in Prague getting anthrax (the anthrax that was sent to the senators and killed some folk), this was then used to start justifing attacking Iraq. However much later on the anthrax was actually shown to come from an american lab, the Ames strain it was called.
therefore Atta didn't meet with anyone in Prague to get Iraqi anthrax. That was made up. The anthrax was also mailed from the same places as the hijackers were living. I sincerely doubt the terrorists got into a secured american weapons facility and stole the Ames strain of the virus.
So someone else knew where the hijackers were living and mailed it from there.
Hard to tell what really happened.
A lot of the 9/11 truthers seem to buy into nonsense like "pods" "no planes" missle hit the pentagon. The people were swapped out at an airforce base etc etc.
Now if the attack was planned, then of course you saturate the market with dis-information anyway.
The fact that both american and israeli security forces said that they observed Mohammed Atta in a meeting in Prague getting anthrax (the anthrax that was sent to the senators and killed some folk), this was then used to start justifing attacking Iraq. However much later on the anthrax was actually shown to come from an american lab, the Ames strain it was called.
therefore Atta didn't meet with anyone in Prague to get Iraqi anthrax. That was made up. The anthrax was also mailed from the same places as the hijackers were living. I sincerely doubt the terrorists got into a secured american weapons facility and stole the Ames strain of the virus.
So someone else knew where the hijackers were living and mailed it from there.
Hard to tell what really happened.
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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Wracu
« on: February 04, 2014, 12:06:31 am »What's that? Optimus Prime is riding Wutteat, Father of Dragons?
I wonder if you put subtitles on they ARE IN THE APPROPRIATE FORMAT.
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The Thousandfold Thought / Re: Favorite Scenes
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:04:50 am »lol Cnaiur the-most-entertaining-of-men.
Indeed. lol
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The Thousandfold Thought / Re: Favorite Scenes
« on: January 28, 2014, 01:24:13 am »
Cnaiur in TWP has some epic scenes. Obviously there is a lot more going on in his thoughts, but superficially some of it makes me laugh. Not that i would ever want to meet Cnaiur in real life or anything or hang out, he'd terrify me.
Going to the Great Tree shouting abuse in his native tongue almost starting a riot. When they are taking Carksand and he is thinking about all the dunyain needs is his silence and he actually gasps out loud. Saubon starts freaking what is it, he just spits and says "nothing". Truth Shines, so do pigs teeth is a great line.
After cutting his throat and wandering about deranged he wonders why no one will match his gaze and even stares down Sranchammer, he then tried to get Proyas attention, and is puzzled he is getting the same look and not being paid attention to.
Cnaiur dude you're insane and deranged, you're also wandering around having not eaten in days with a huge fresh wound on your throat which you did yourself. People aren't looking away cause they think you're a "faggot weeper"
Going to the Great Tree shouting abuse in his native tongue almost starting a riot. When they are taking Carksand and he is thinking about all the dunyain needs is his silence and he actually gasps out loud. Saubon starts freaking what is it, he just spits and says "nothing". Truth Shines, so do pigs teeth is a great line.
After cutting his throat and wandering about deranged he wonders why no one will match his gaze and even stares down Sranchammer, he then tried to get Proyas attention, and is puzzled he is getting the same look and not being paid attention to.
Cnaiur dude you're insane and deranged, you're also wandering around having not eaten in days with a huge fresh wound on your throat which you did yourself. People aren't looking away cause they think you're a "faggot weeper"
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The Judging Eye / Re: O M G
« on: January 16, 2014, 04:14:47 pm »
Wonder if Kelhus left any sorcerous weapons kicking about. Or if he took them all with him.
