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I've just done a search as well and can't find anything to with football, tenis, rugby or cricket !

It's true I was hitting the qiri hard on my last read through, but I can't belive I got it that wrong.  It was sports related.  It was related to a "as big as" or "the size of a".

Memory is a strange.  Now I'm destined to spend the rest of my days scouring the accursed halls of Cil-Aujas in search of The 20th Century Sports Reference.

Fair enough damnation for opening a thread on such a flimsy premise ?

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I so remember the word football.  I think I do.  Highlighted it and everything, but my ex wife has that iPad now, and I'd prefer to brave Wutteat than her :p

Will start a re-read tonight of any chapters it might have been in.

Big sorry if I got that one wrong, let's see

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The Unholy Consult / [TUC SPOILERS] Ajokli as metaphor ?
« on: July 24, 2017, 11:36:30 pm »
For the whole series of books.

Defeat being snatched from the jaws of victory as Teknowlogy usurping our humanity the moment we find our truths. 

The gods as eternal-ish human concepts of War, Fate, Birth, etc.  Ajokli at war with them.

The series; the hardcore philosopher Bakker using epic fantasy as the framework to trickster us into understanding The Spaces Between The Gods ?

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There's a long post brewing somewhere :: found the ending quite logical and uplifting, until reading everything here !

But this isn't that post.

The (sub-optimal) title of this post refers to a couple of weird clues found in the text, single words used by the narrator which broke the world building.

I discussed this with my wife, who is a lot more literary than me, and she assured me that any skilled writer would have done this on purpose.  It wasn't a mistake and it wasn't an editorial oversight.

Pfff, after all that build-up these two examples seem a bit pathetic - heregoes anyway

1) on my 3rd re-read of TJE or WLW (the part where the skin eaters are in the old non-man mansion) the narrator describes the dimensions as (from memory) “the length of a football field”.  A huge jump out of Earwa's world into our own.

2) again, a measurement thing, I think from an even earlier book, the narrator describes a distance in “Miles” or “Kilometres” - not Earwan measurements.

These two (surely intentional) breaks in the narrative consciousness subtly suggested the possibility of the nuke scene.  That there were contemporary eyes looking into & shaping Earwa.

Has anyone else found any other “sticky out bits” like these ?  I'll be looking out for them on the 4th re-read.

This also raises the question as to why it was fine for the narrator to use present day, our world concepts to describe Earwan phenomena, yet couldn't call a nuke a nuke, or a hologram a hologram.

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Slightly unrelated, but involving a stick (or was it a bone... :o ).  Right at the end of TTT on the way to meeting Big Moe, Kellhus steps on a twig or something.  It cracks.  That was just so un-Kellhus.

I've seen a few posts about the meaning of this, but no conclusions.

It was interesting that in almost exactly the same point of the second series (20 pages before the end) there was another “Twig”; ground seemingly unconditioned by Kellhus, though this time much more explicitly significant to the unfolding of events : Kelmomas.

Are there any conclusions to be drawn from this, or is it simply random structural echoes ?

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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO SPOILERS] The Parts Appalling
« on: July 20, 2016, 06:57:55 pm »
I liked the Proyas scene.  Was totally unexpected;  my wife saw me laughing reading it,  and I explained to her "one of the characters is really getting fucked in the ass, spiritually, psychologically, metaphorically and physically"

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 13, 2016, 05:28:52 am »
How did you guys manage to get an electronic copy of The Great Ordeal on the other side of the pond? I live in Europe but changed my address on Amazon so I could buy it on Kindle today, but it still says the Kindle copy won't arrive until September...

I'd be thankful for some advice.
I guess that if you follow the steps I posted on the previous page  ( amazon,  kindle not ip spoofing madness ) you should be good, being from Europe as well.  The step which nearly tripped me was changing kindle settings. Says something like 'I've changed address' swap this to a canada address and everything will be fine.  If you're really stuck pm me... wait for the pm to come through and I'm happy to go through the process with you on Skype.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 06:50:28 pm »
Omnirom. If you change your address to a Canadian Address (google one) it will play.. i think. Just need to change it with same username etc, then you can change it back in a little bit.

Thanking yahoo ! this worked.

googled best Toronto coffee shop, used their address on Amazon.ca, went to Kindle settings, set my country to Canada.  Re-logged in, Euro CC worked fine, and... I got it.

Rum, cola, other exotics, garden, tablet, love, peace, happiness.

Vamos !

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 06:26:32 pm »
I hate borders.

A kindred spirit; it's my hope that in the future people will view the lottery of hunger and life possibilities decided on something as random as birth location with the same barbaric darkness with which we see human sacrifice, slavery and the 'corrective' torture of homosexuals.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 02:46:36 pm »
Amazon.ca doesn't want to play ball either :(

I'm thinking I could spoof my IP, set up an Amazon.ca account with new email account and a fake physical address found on the internet, buy an Amazon.ca gift certificate from a third party vendor with my European credit card, top up the new Amazon.ca account with the gift card, then purchase the book that way.

It's weird : I could probably buy a controlling stake in a Canadian mining company over the internet more easily than a f***ing e-book.

There's never a free market globalization around when you need one.

Surely there's an easier way which doesn't start with kat.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 04:39:43 am »
Keep checking the b&n site for the digital edition.  Anyone know what time it is in noblebarnesland?

Nowwwww!
"International addresses are not allowed when there are digital item(s) in your cart."
ballix, I'm going to bed

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 04:26:21 am »
Keep checking the b&n site for the digital edition.  Anyone know what time it is in noblebarnesland?

Nowwwww!

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The Great Ordeal / Re: TGO Official Buys
« on: July 12, 2016, 01:19:21 am »
Keep checking the b&n site for the digital edition.  Anyone know what time it is in noblebarnesland?

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General Earwa / Re: Bakker's The Second Apocalypse Media Circus
« on: June 12, 2016, 06:08:49 pm »
Who would you wish to blurb the next book

Thinking about this more, Umberto Eco could have been interesting; intellectually closer and likely to have helped attract a very different set of readers than GRRM.

Alas, it's a few months too late.

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General Earwa / Re: Bakker's The Second Apocalypse Media Circus
« on: June 11, 2016, 07:08:11 pm »
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EDIT: Though, if we can't have GRRM, I'd love if MG's bakkerfans quote graced the cover 8)!

jajaja, great call !

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General Earwa / Re: Bakker's The Second Apocalypse Media Circus
« on: June 11, 2016, 04:24:53 pm »
Lol - there's a comment by a redditor that highlights this sentiment nicely: "God save us from those who think fiction is the primary means by which people are oppressed."

That is such a beautiful quote.  The "god save us" part didn't register at first; brilliant.

 
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But it doesn't necessarily invalidate the criticisms so much as maybe his work just might?

No energy or inclination to fight this fight now.  Just hope that not one character of the text was influenced by auto-invalidated thought fascists.

 
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Who would you wish to blurb the next book, Omnirom? (Aside, from the fact that if Esslemont has a Editorial Review at Amazon, he very well may be the blurb.)

Functionally GRRM. Another 100,000 nodes which have processed Bakker in the world would make it a better, more effective place.

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