[Madness]

Dear Joe Abercrombie,

I recently read your book Before They Are Hanged and I discovered there-in a bookmark asking "Who are the Dûnyain?" I dutifully used the aforementioned bookmark while reading your book in the anticipation of the answer to this riddle. However, nowhere in this book, nor the greater trilogy are these "Dûnyain" mentioned?

What kind of troll are you?

Sincerely,

A Confused Fan

[Wilshire]

exactly. We'll have to pick through forums and see if the Question is asked.

btw if we keep using the phrase it will lead people to wherever we use it at. So this thread shows up in the google search

[Madness]

Which is probably why it's good if everyone posts a little spoiler-free blurb in the thread itself, no?

[Garet Jax]

One side note, we might just end up with a bunch of really confused readers wondering when the mysterious Dunyain will show up in the book they are reading .

That's what I was thinking.  Maybe when the Dunyain don't show up in their book, they will take to google...

[Somnambulist]

Instead of a url, we could put 'google it' on the bottom of the bookmark.  lol

[SilentRoamer]

Just to let you guys know.

I have asked an ex-colleague of mine who specialises in SEO to give me a call when he has some time so we can get this done properly. Who are the Dunyain gives the first result of Who destroyed Ishual - we don't want spoilers for the newbs.

Once I have spoken to my friend I will let you all know.

[SilentRoamer]

Instead of a url, we could put 'google it' on the bottom of the bookmark.  lol

Do people need to be told to Google questions?! seriously!!

[mrganondorf]

It might be difficult to "build a buzz" because people probably don't frequent bookstores. Most people will encounter the bookmarks maybe once or twice in a few weeks time. After month I imagine the staff will have noticed something, and I don't know if that is good or bad.
I'd guess a few weeks to a month after the first drop, per location, would be plenty of time. I don't know many people that "frequent" bookstores, certainly not more than once a month. The goal might be to get people once unbranded, and again with a website. Those that were curious the first round probably already tried to google it (hopefully successfully leading them here). Those who get the second one with the site will hopefully get curious enough to go to the site.


One side note, we might just end up with a bunch of really confused readers wondering when the mysterious Dunyain will show up in the book they are reading .

Sure would be great if we could figure out a way to put a 'digital bookmark' into kindle copies, but I guess that is impossible/illegal.  Hmm, tapping audiences from a from a digital pov, maybe we could put "who are the dunyain?" in the bottom corner of popular porn flick uploads. 

Seriously though, Wilshire you mentioned the ability to buy books directly from Bakker--i don't know if that would work, but if there's any funds at all to be had, then maybe tsa would want to buy ad space on sci/fi fantasy blogs, reddit, twitter, whatever.

[Wilshire]

Just to let you guys know.

I have asked an ex-colleague of mine who specialises in SEO to give me a call when he has some time so we can get this done properly. Who are the Dunyain gives the first result of Who destroyed Ishual - we don't want spoilers for the newbs.

Once I have spoken to my friend I will let you all know.

You're amazing.

Instead of a url, we could put 'google it' on the bottom of the bookmark.  lol

Do people need to be told to Google questions?! seriously!!

Apparently they do. I have to do it for people all the time. I mean some people don't even know about quotation marks... Sometimes, I worry....
In all seriousness though, please don't put that at the bottom of the bookmark lol. People reading TSA should make that cognitive link themselves.

Seriously though, Wilshire you mentioned the ability to buy books directly from Bakker--i don't know if that would work, but if there's any funds at all to be had, then maybe tsa would want to buy ad space on sci/fi fantasy blogs, reddit, twitter, whatever.

This has been discussed from time to time, no one has pulled the trigger. Someone pages back mentioned doing something similar once... No one has looked into costs or done anything officially though.

Of course, I'd potentially be willing to pitch in, but I'm too lazy currently to do that research myself.


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Madness/FB/anyone - Do you think we should separate all the  "Bookmarks" discussion into its own topic? Its covered at least an entire page here and we are running close to our 15 page limit.

[mrganondorf]

trying to make it viral, new look:
https://twitter.com/Bakker_Fanatics

[Wilshire]

trying to make it viral, new look:
https://twitter.com/Bakker_Fanatics

Soma can make a horizontal version of the final bookmark for MG's twitter once we get it settled?

MG, look good to me, I like the Dunyain picture as well. Thanks for running with that twitter account, awesome work.

[mrganondorf]

Thanks Wilshire!

Getting a few favorites and retweets today--I guess the more silly little retweets, the more people will see the account.

Curious--what does @Bakker_Fanatics look like from computer/phone that's not mine?  Hard to judge the aesthetic...  Plase halp!

[Somnambulist]

Soma can make a horizontal version of the final bookmark for MG's twitter once we get it settled?

You betcha

[Madness]

On my phone I can't make out the Who are the Dunyain behind the Kellhus picture, MG. It looks good regardless, I like Quinthane's sketch-style on black on white.

Also, Pat's Fantasy Hotlist has unbid ad-space that is just sitting there...

[mrganondorf]

I thought it might look like that.  Suggestions?