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Author Q&A / Re: Unholy Consultation - *SUPER SPOILERIFIC*
« on: July 28, 2017, 07:54:20 pm »
WOW, thanks again for putting an end to our misery. You're clearing most of our excruciating doubts.


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Author Q&A / Re: Unholy Consultation - *SUPER SPOILERIFIC*
« on: July 28, 2017, 07:05:10 pm »
The digestion is improving, day after day, but it's like eating a mammoth, it isn't easy to hunt it, eat it and digest it.

You forgot to mention the hot sauce...

The sauce is a hellish mix of chili and wasabi, but I really liked it, maybe in a masochistic "srancky" way (my fault), anyway I'm eager for more.

Congrats for the book, I never read something like TUC. I'm still stunned.

The No-God  :o , and ZDC confirmation  ;D. A great day. Thanks for coming by .

Yes, great indeed, thank you, Mr. Bakker, you have made may day.


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The Unholy Consult / Re: TUC - Moments that cut to the visceral quick
« on: July 28, 2017, 06:39:35 pm »
+1

Other moment: when we know that the Dunyain are the new Consult.
It was a possibility since the conversation between Kellhus and Moë (at TTT), but when it becomes real it's shocking.  :o

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Author Q&A / Re: Unholy Consultation - *SUPER SPOILERIFIC*
« on: July 28, 2017, 06:31:06 pm »
The digestion is improving, day after day, but it's like eating a mammoth, it isn't easy to hunt it, eat it and digest it.

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Totally agree with Condyoke and Panorama.
 The end is too abrupt for me. I mean, half of the book lingers in grisly descriptions that surely creates a great atmosphere, but don't match with a climax too short and sharp and with tons of unanswered questions.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] The Carapace & The No-God
« on: July 28, 2017, 06:41:40 am »
Yes and so I'm not sure anymore of who's the father of Mim's baby.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Ishual
« on: July 28, 2017, 06:13:54 am »
Totally in the darkness. I'm not dunyain, I can't foresee this end, lol.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]What was the point
« on: July 27, 2017, 07:56:33 pm »
I worry for Bakker's future publications .

Me too. What about the critics' reviews?

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]What was the point
« on: July 27, 2017, 07:22:34 pm »
I've mentioned to others but Bakker is well-aware of his loose ends, whichever he brings more life to later. But again I think distinguishing the narrative arcs of TAE as one book from the loose seeds will go a long way towards appreciating TAE as its own story.

I appreciate TAE for what it is, absolutely. However, I can't ignore that major series-spanning questions are still unanswered and may forever go unanswered. That is the source of my disappointment more than anything.

Without TSTSNBN, the entire series will be less than it could have been, for me that's a certainty.

Agreed, for me it would be like ASOIAF with no "Winds of Winter", which is a damned possibility, by the way.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]What was the point
« on: July 27, 2017, 07:06:28 pm »
I don't see any problem with not having a Disney fairy tale ending, myself. Hell, the overall series is named THE SECOND APOCALYPSE. Btw, there is still a third series coming.

No problem for me if TUC were the end of it but at least all storylines were clear and decently closed, obviously an "so did the Great Ordeal perish..." is not enough.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Ishual
« on: July 27, 2017, 05:07:09 pm »
Has anybody read the Glossary entry for Engus?  The mention of a cursed valley in the Demua Mountains, and piles of Sranc bones, seems to suggest that there was something 'wrong' with Ishual, long before the Dunyain got there. 

To go back to your original question:  I honestly think it's a mistake.  The Demua mountains are all the way across the Istyuli Plains and the Aumris River valley away from Meorn and Sakarpus.  It's probably meant to be the Osthwai Mountains or Hethanta Mountains, not Demua.  Doesn't make much sense for the Sakarpi to have 'legends' of something so far away from themselves.  Things far away tend to lose their potency, so something close seems more likely.  Which is why I thinks it's just a mistake. (shrugs)

I thought the same reading it, but who knows. After the end of TUC I live in the darkness (that comes before).

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers]What was the point
« on: July 27, 2017, 09:52:55 am »
I think if Bakker were to come out and say, "Yes there will definitely be a third series", I would feel better about it. As it stands, I liked the book a lot, but I have very mixed feelings about the ending.

I feel pretty much the same.

Some of the plotlines have (for me) little sense without a continuation.
For example, Achamian&Mimara: what will be the point of travelling all through Earwa, endure Cil-Aujas, the Mop, a dragon, Ishual, etc, and then arrive to the Great Ordeal and don't use the fucking Judging Eye, share at most some pathetic words with Kellhus (sparing him useful information about Cnaiur, Ishual... and not really confronting him) and don't do a fucking thing in the great battle of their time???
Just watch the outcome and cry "fly you fools"??? WTF!!!
I mean I'd be very pissed off if Gandalf went to the Morannon with all the Gondor suckers to not to fight in the battle and to just watch how the orcs go medieval with all his friends.
What kind of gnostic mage is Achamian? I was expecting real action for him, not just playing the midwife with Mimara and Esmenet.
Yes, they had a cool travel through Earwa, and found themselves in their wandering (as qirri junkies, lol), but, for fuck sake, they don't do a relevant thing for the common cause (meaning trying to prevent the Second Apocalypse). I hope that they will be able to do something more in the next series because Achamian is one of my favourite characters but his part in this book is pretty lame to me.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: What was the point - Spoilers
« on: July 26, 2017, 08:55:52 am »
If this were the real end of the story, well, yes, Bakker would be the most greatest troll-writer in the world (surpassing by far GRR Martin), what the fuck would be the purpose of the books.
But it seems that we will have at least to books more with the conclusion. And I truly hope that these books won't be just a succession of gore, misery, rape and death.
I'd like some words of Bakker giving us some light about all of this.

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Excellent post, Mondoenghus.
When reading the glossary I've notice only the strange death of Irissas lost in calm sea, but now what you say sounds like a kellhusian purge to me.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Psalm of Imimorûl
« on: July 25, 2017, 02:35:04 pm »
Yeah, deo gratias for that. Lol.

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