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General Misc. / Re: [!STAR WARS SPOILERS!] The Last Jedi
« on: January 05, 2018, 10:59:05 pm »
There are a lot of things I really liked about the movie but a lot of things about it I really hated, which kinda compounded with my general dislike for what Disney has done to the film franchise.

I liked TFA when it first came out but it really lost favor for me on rewatches, so I liked how TFA kinda threw a lot of it out. As Knee that Bends wrote, Snoke mocking Ren's helmet felt like a big middle finger to the slavish imitation of TFA and its uninspiring new contributions. Luke throwing the lightsaber over his shoulder and Rey's parents being nobody were both such bold subversions of peoples expectations that they had been building up for years. I liked the length of the movie, the action, and the drama, it just felt like the really big operatic science fantasy film that I've been waiting for from this new trilogy.

That said, the villains are trash. The forced campy humor is irredeemably bad. Holdo standing around Resistance soldiers with her pink hair and flowing dress is the most out of place character in the entirety of the series, and that's saying a lot for a space drama with aliens.  I don't think clueless creepy Uncle Luke really works or does justice to what this character means to American culture. I feel so bad for Mark Hamill because he's probably been looking forward to reprising this role for the majority of his life and in interviews he said that this is basically an alternate universe version of Luke that does not capture his understanding of the character at all. It's just incredibly sad to me.

Ultimately, my larger problems are with the way this series was positioned at large. Instead of showing the rebuilding of the Republic, they just did a rehash that would pander to the nostalgia of fans of the original trilogy. It's just more Empire vs. Rebels, more X-Wings and Tie Fighters, another Darth Vader. Starting with Empire, these were essentially the biggest independent films but now their creative purpose has been discarded to instead play it safe and reestablish the good will of the brand, so the corporation that now owns it can continue making money off of it.

Like Athorn "FB" Gallizur, I was the perfect age for the prequels when they first came out but as I grew older I saw the flaws and more or less wrote them off like everybody else. This new sequel trilogy really made me appreciate what George was trying to do with them, to tell a new story, with new characters, planets, and starships, with different themes and plot lines in a largely different setting. I also think they have much better action, too!


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General Misc. / Re: NFL I - And so it begins..
« on: December 20, 2017, 09:54:10 pm »
Mr. Gannondorf/Bakkerfans roots for the Pats.

I'm an NYG fan in my early 30s so it goes without saying what my highs are. Both sides of my family are from North Jersey, both passed the Giants on to me. I would actually say the last few years might be the darkest times I've seen. Even the 11-5 season we had last year, it was embarrassing how devoid of talent and coaching the offense obviously was. It's just absurd that a team can go so many years with the same deficiencies at the same positions and only fire the GM now. I also knew McAdoo was a bad decision but assumed I just wasn't as smart as the lifelong football execs in the organization. Funny how that turned out.

Really looking forward to the playoffs this year, both wildcard races are kinda crazy right now, especially the NFC one. For the Superbowl I'd like to see the Jaguars and Vikings go at it.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: For those of you who hated the ending …
« on: December 20, 2017, 09:36:07 pm »
I've spent too much time reading these books to take a remark like, "the people who don't like it are the ones who get it!" as anything other than rationalization.

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General Misc. / Re: Video Game Thread! What are you playing?
« on: November 17, 2017, 07:37:04 pm »
I've been playing a lot of Dawn of War III lately, a real time strategy game based on the Warhammer 40k property. It's very similar to Warcraft III, where you build bases and units but with an emphasis on hero characters. The art and animations of the units and landscapes are awesome, unfortunately it might be the last time we get a game in the vintage mold of the genre with this level of production values.

I've had my eye on AC Origins, been hearing lots of good things about it. I just haven't been able to get into big budget action/role-playing games for a while. I really liked Horizon Zero Dawn on PS4 but it was hard for me to get excited to play it and I gave up upon reaching the desert area. I feel like I'm really aging as a gamer where I just want to play computer strategy games but I might check out ACO when it goes on sale.

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The No-God / Re: Your mission, should you choose to accept!
« on: November 16, 2017, 09:23:33 pm »
I would want to see the consequences of the closing off of the Outside resulting in the death of meaning, leading to a loss of consciousness and self-awareness in human beings. First people begin acting more bold without realizing it, especially timid characters, since they are no longer inhibited by their self-consciousness. Next people begin losing their faculty for language, our ability to express meaning, with characters starting to say a coherent sentence but ending in nonsense, severely hindering the communication necessary to resist the No-God. Next the norms of conduct of society completely fall apart because people can no longer process abstractions and they revert to looting and tearing eachother apart in the face of the apocalypse. By the end of the saga, humanity is reduced to an ape-like state, where they can do nothing but carry out simple biological functions and their only response to the coming of the No-God is to flee howling in terror.

While this is happening, the confluence of unlikely miracles it takes to sustain life, let alone an entire planet of biodiverse multi-celled organisms or even intelligent life, begin to break down. The grass and plants are withering rapidly, the climate becomes highly erratic, and water begins to dry up almost everywhere. Domesticated animals just drop dead because they no longer have the milennia of intentional programming that artificially evolved them into what they are. More and more poisonous gasses are released into the atmosphere, natural disasters are becoming common occurrences and comets and other space objects begin colliding into Earwa. As the planet can't take much more, everything is consumed by a major black hole event that negates all existence. With a POV in the outside of the gods watching all of this helplessly, the Outside blinks out of existence as well, as it cannot exist if it's mirror image does not.

Aurax tales off the VR headset and chastises Aurang for not making it to the end. The whole thing was a simulation, an open world game where you travel the galaxy trying to find the correct planet and end damnation by activating System Initialization. They committed such insane atrocities on an absurd scale because there were no consequences, much like any teenager blowing off steam in Grand Theft Auto. The game is populated with NPCs created using something like Bethesda's Radiant AI system, where characters can make their own decisions according to programmed behaviors and inclinations. Everything you read about what they said, thought, and felt was entirely meaningless. This challenges the readers perception about the significance of what they feel about struggles and achievements - that you can feel such powerful attachment to experiences that are not real, both in the in-world narrative of the book and your own reading experience outside of it.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Who actually liked TUC?
« on: November 10, 2017, 02:25:20 am »
The more I think about it, the angrier I become.

That bad?

I've was wondering where you'd been....

Not that bad!

I also got married in mid-October and was honeymooning for a bit after that, so haven't been able to participate in as much of the followup discussions.

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I'm telling you'all, Bakker is playing you - don't let it happen. Don't let anyone ( including me ) manipulate you! Time to root for the bad guy(s), go Consult! He says those who hated the ending get the books more so then those who didn't ...
 he's outright admitting he's fucking with us.


I'm telling you'all, Bakker is playing you - don't let it happen. Don't let anyone ( including me ) manipulate you! Time to root for the bad guy(s), go Consult! He says those who hated the ending get the books more so then those who didn't ...
 he's outright admitting he's fucking with us.


You might be onto something.

My frustration is a result of that Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast, where he said he's basically had this image of the No-God rising and has been trying to get to that point for the last thirty years. So I feel like he wanted to tell this really dark, epic story that would culminate in this ultra bad ass scene. And then he realized he should probably write a prequel series that took place twenty years earlier to explain how those characters got there.

So basically, in the process of his original vision, he inadvertently wrote one of the greatest fantasy trilogies of all time. I was expecting more for that story, instead of something just building up to a really badass scene. I feel like the curtain finally got pulled back and behind it was a giant mirror of everything we had already seen. Everything about the mythos, the Nonmen, the Inchoroi, the First Apocalypse, the Dunyain, has pretty much been explained since the Thousandfold Thought. There's no hidden agenda behind the Consult's disappearance 300 years ago, the Scholastic Wars, Fanimry, or everything that went down with Moenghus and Maithanet. The story isn't what I thought it would be, which is more my fault than anything, but I do feel the Prince of Nothing portended more than what we got from the Aspect Emperor.

I guess what I really want at this point is an interquel series about the Unification Wars. I really enjoyed the entries about it in the expanded glossary.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Who actually liked TUC?
« on: November 09, 2017, 07:32:42 pm »
The more I think about it, the angrier I become.

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The Unholy Consult / The Cover
« on: October 06, 2017, 04:09:33 am »
Not sure if anyone's brought this up yet:




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General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: October 06, 2017, 03:42:12 am »
That specific foreshadowing, Bolivar, as well as Kellhus' speech in Shikol's Court are made even more interesting as Bakker talked at Zaudunyanicon about how when he began writing TAE he wasn't yet sure who would take Ajokli's position in TUC, Gilgaol or Ajokli.

That's amazing. Did he mean that it was meant to be ambiguous up to that point, that Gilgaol could have taken over Kellhus in the Ark? It seems like he could have gone either way even after the Celmomas POV in TGO.

Wish I could've been there. I hope maybe you guys could move it just south of the border next year !!!  :D

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: October 03, 2017, 03:50:19 am »
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And this one Scylvendi, this Utemot Chieftain. Conphas had witnessed it, as much as any of the Columnaries who′d quailed before him in Joktha. In the firelight the barbarian’s eyes had been coals set in his skull. And the blood had painted him the colour of his true skin. The swatting arms, the roaring voice, the chest-pounding declarations. They had all seen the God. They had all seen dread Gilgaöl rearing about him, a great horned shadow …

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Who actually liked TUC?
« on: September 28, 2017, 03:04:01 am »
I've always felt this way about the title. I can't believe we saw more of the Ark proper in TTT than we did in TUC. Maybe it's unfair to hold him to this standard but when you build it up for years that the final book is The Unholy Consult and the way it was described in interviews in the years leading up to it, you're expecting some crazy shit. Then The Great Ordeal raised the anticipation further with the nuke, Ishterebinth, the Survivor's Son, and the head on the pole. Aurax should've been an insane encounter. We're told about the Mangeacca existing during the First Holy War now we're supposed to believe they all died out.

I expect it was intended to be frustrating and maybe it was a stroke of genius, that eery feeling that Golgotterath was abandoned, the horn coming down (holy shit), Kellhus decimating Aurang and subduing the Dunsult, only for it all to turn on them in the end. But I agree The Horns of Golgotterath would've been a better title.

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The Unholy Consult / Re: Did The False Sun spoil TUC for you?
« on: September 08, 2017, 07:54:59 pm »
I don't think it spoiled anything, we already knew the Consult's goal from TTT, with the glossary breaking down the principal actors. The only thing we didn't really know was that what the Inverse Fire was or that it was the device behind their motivation. I suppose you could say TFS heavily suggested that it was some illuminating source on the ceiling of the golden room atop the upright horn but it still left some mystery, with the story ending just as Shaeonanra looks up.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Foreshadowing in the books.
« on: September 08, 2017, 07:17:23 pm »
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The creak of bronze hinges. They both yanked their gazes to the shadows that concealed the entrance. The fires pulled and twirled in the tripods set to either side of the game-table. Achamian heard the scuff of little feet, then suddenly Nau-Cayûti hurtled into his father’s arms and lap.
  “Whoopa!” Celmomas cried. “What warrior leaps blindly into the arms of his foe?”
  The boy chortled in the grinding way of children fending fingers that tickle. “You’re not my foe, Da!”
  “Wait till you get older!”

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The Unholy Consult / The next time you come before me
« on: August 15, 2017, 05:02:29 pm »
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  Drusas Achamian *fell to his knees* [emphasis original] upon wicked Shigogli, old and wrecked and more confounded than he had ever been. He opened his arms, tears spilling hot, beseeching …
  “Kellhus!”
  The Holy Aspect-Emperor paused to regard him, an inked apparition, wrenching for the carrion profundity of his Mark. For the first time Achamian noticed all the faces peering from the shadowy slots about them, men squinting at the dark, wondering at the truth beneath the ancient tongue Kellhus had used to conceal their exchange.
  “This one thing …” Achamian cried. “Please … Kellhus … I beg.” Sobs shook him. Tears spilled. “This one thing …”   
  A single heartbeat. Piteous. Impotent.
  “Tend to your women, Akka.”
  The old Wizard flinched, coughed for the pang in his breast, flew to his feet upon bursting rage. “Murderer!”
  Never had a word seemed so small.

I always expected a moment of reconciliation, where they would reunite and put aside their differences to defeat the Consult together.

It's more a warning that when Achamian next saw him, and witnessed the full extent of what Kellhus had to do to defeat the Consult, Achamian's own weakness would overwhelm him with anguish at the enormity of what needed to be done, and his own inability to accept it.

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General Earwa / Re: [TUC Spoilers] Nascenti of Zaudunyanicon
« on: August 15, 2017, 04:47:26 pm »
Pictures!

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