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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: Dunyain Weakness
« on: February 28, 2014, 12:52:12 am »
Well it's obvious the Dunyain have weaknesses, they are still humans.

From the start Khellus has been proven wrong and made mistakes. Do you remember Leweth the trapper with his dogs ? How Khellus described him as lost in his superstitions, seeing the mystic everywhere ? How pathetic the guy seemed....

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For Leweth, Kellhus knew, the world was fraught with gods, ghosts, even demons. It was steeped in their conspiracies, crowded with omens and portents of their capricious humours. Like a second horizon, their designs encompassed the struggles of men—shrouded, cruel, and in the end, always fatal.

And now after Khellus has travelled the world and lived outside the Dunyain's refuge, he has accepted a lot of what he thought was myths and superstitions, he's become much like what he despised in the 1st world born he met. Let's face it if there is one glaring weakness in Khellus and probably the Dunyain as a whole, it is arrogance... Being smarter doesn't mean being wiser or more knowledgeable.

One thing that surprises me is how the Dunyain are described as a sect seeking enlightment, and exiling themselves willingly from the world. But then there's the whole training about face reading... For me that's a tool for manipulation and control, I can't accept that's it's needed for suppressing your own emotions. So the Dunyain may have exiled themselves but they are definitely not above world matters.


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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: What is the No God? II
« on: February 24, 2014, 09:09:39 pm »
Welcome to the Second Apocalypse, oneeyed.

Somewhere buried in this thread Curethan and I talk about the No-God as being perceptively blind - we were trying to figure out how it might perceive when it is "hooked up" to the Weapon Races. Is it a Tekne approximation to what we think happens with the Gods and their followers, whom seem to provide nodes of perception and agency for the Gods in the world?


Thanks for the welcome. As I understood it, the no god perceives and sees only through souls. In his quest for defining himself he devours... and becomes more. While he asks, he can only get answers through destruction.

One point which is very interesting for me is that he seems to be one of the only innocent or pure beings in Bakker's world. A child. All the deaths, only a side effect of his presence. He is corrupting but uncorrupted... yet. That's the impression I got anyway.

And yes, the meeting/confrontation between the no god and kellus will be definitely interesting. Can Kellus lie to and manipulate a god ? Whatever happens I'm not sure we'll even know if his intent is to help or as usual control, even after the fact.

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The White-Luck Warrior / Re: What is the No God? II
« on: February 24, 2014, 07:50:03 am »

Anyway, the No God begging to know what people see makes me think his vision is too good. Plus it's a cool parallel to the blind gods.


You say that the No God is either blind or "his vision is too good"... But actually I think it's neither.
What do you see ?
What am I ?

The No God can't see himself. Only from others can he know what he is. This reminds me of the Kellus-Akka dialog where Kellus asks Akka what he sees from a mirror... Not himself. Only his eyes. Only through others can he see himself. I think the No God questions are the same, he's trying to define himself through others.

That fits with his name too. Until he gets the answer to his questions he still remains the no god, a god of nothing or an incomplete god.

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