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The Great Ordeal / Re: [TGO SPOILERS] Music for TGO
« on: March 12, 2017, 09:05:58 am »
While I was reading the books I often connected particular moments with particular songs, but I forgot almost all of them until I finished TGO and started roaming the forum.

Korringhus jumping...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNJ7hhauaKI

A possible soundtrack for the trip to the Outside, it's quite a sick song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2V-ftsPqV0

The Boy in the Scylvendi camp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmc21V-zBq0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk7TbYPycrk&t=1s
And half of this album is quite appropriate:

Genocidal Crush is definitely an Inchoroi vibe, it's got violence, sex and genocide in it, what more could a decent Inchi boy want?

Surf the Apocalypse... We all will be surfing the Second Apocalypse soon, right?

Fear Your Mind - "Better mind your thoughts and fear your mind" in case there's a Voice in your head, you know.

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The Great Ordeal / Re: Kellhus' return to Momemn and the Hundred
« on: March 10, 2017, 10:53:34 pm »
Ajokli's prophecy? I'm not quite sure I remember something like that, can you explain it? It seems I need an Elju.

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The Great Ordeal / Kellhus' return to Momemn and the Hundred
« on: March 10, 2017, 03:54:45 pm »
So there's something that really bothers me about Kellhus returning to Momemn. Going back exactly when he's needed seems like either a plan or a coincidence. But how could he know what's going on there or what is going to happen (without the earthquake Fanayal couldn't really storm the city)? And it couldn't simply be a coincidence.

From what Psatma says we learn she knew the earthquake was coming, that it was caused by Yatwer, or so she thinks. But do the Gods really act this way? If Yatwer can simply cause an earthquake, why not do it anytime while Kellhus was somewhere in the Palace near a Chorae that would kill him? Or while he's sleeping? Can't a God cause a storm while Kellhus was controlling that raft over The Misty Sea and struck him with a lightning? Even if not killing him, then stunning him so he'll lose control and all of them could sink and drown before Kellhus is able to recover? After all, there are numerous examples of the Gods working through people - Psatma, TWLW, Sorweel, the Narindars... And it seems like that's how they do it - through people rather than directly.

Indeed, maybe she needed the WLW in order to cause a natural phenomenon like the earthquake (Eärwaquake?), but if Sorweel was really blessed by her, maybe she could have done something, anything, while he was near K. So how come all this coincide - the Aspect-Emperor coming back to Momemn precisely when he's needed to stop Fanayal precisely after he can finally storm the city due to the collapsed walls?

Is there some kind of contradiction between the way Gods normally act and what Yatwer does or it's all in my head only?

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Thank you all, I'm glad I can finally dig in here after finishing TGO a few weeks ago. I don't have much time these days, but I was pondering some things and I have to check if there's already a thread like this.
Anyway, I was going to post some of the epigraphs as well, but I think they are all already included in the Wikiquote. Or others I've taken from RSB's Goodreads profile, so I guess they can also be included in the Wikiquote easily. Actually is this project still alive?

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It is befitting, I suppose, that in order to better explore the darkness that comes before me, because I'm new here and there's quite a lot of darkness around, I should start from the very beginning...

Some of Bakker's quotes strikes me as remarkable, to say the least, so during my reading of the PoN I took some time to write some of them down or hunt others down during the reread I did. Some day, when I do a TSA reread, I will probably add more from there. So here are some:

"Intelligent people, Achaimian had found, were typically less happy. The reason for this was simple: they were better able to rationalize their delusions. The ability to stomach truth had little to do with intelligence – nothing, in fact. The intellect was far better at arguing away truths than at finding them."
- TWP

"Maithanet carried a plague whose primary symptom was certainty. How the God could be equated with the absence of hesitation was something Achamian had never understood. After all, what was the God but the mystery that burdened them all? What was hesitation but a dwelling-within this mystery?"
- TDTCB, Chapter Three

“I thought you said the ancients believed their gods lived atop these things,” Kellhus called down. “Why do you tarry?”
Achaimian paused, scowled up at the remaining distance. Gasping for breath, he struggled to smile through his grimace. “Because the ancients believed their gods lived atop these things…”
- TWP

“The world has had the habit,” Achamian said, “of breaking the back of my promises.”
- TDTCB, Chapter Three

"Achaimian liked to claim that men were simple, that women need only feed, fuck, and flatter them to keep them happy."
- TDTCB I suppose, I haven't written if it's from The Darkness... or TWP

"Am I so different from this man? Achamian asked himself, watching the captain in his periphery. Not really, he thought, but he ignored the man nonetheless and turned back to stare at Sumna, hazy against the dark hills.
And yet he was different. So many cares, and the wages so slight. Different in that his tantrums could sweep away city gates, pulverize flesh, and snap bone. Such power, and yet the same vanities, the same fears, and far darker whims. He had expected the mythic to raise him up, to exalt his every act, and instead he was set adrift . . . Detachment enlightened no one. He could turn this ship into a shining inferno, then walk unscathed across the surface of the water, and yet he could never be . . . certain.
- TDTCB, Chapter Three

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