I've laughed pretty hard at many of solo's posts over the years, but that one was one of the best.  I felt like Eleazaras cackling with grief when it was starting to set in that he was quite damned after all. 


Yeah, we can't say that Nil'giccas, even if he was a great character is the greatest sorcerer.  Here's what I think the heirarchy likely is....wait...just got started and realized I should go back to the sorcery thread to do this rather than here.  So I have contributed quite nothing with this post!

I choose to believe that the Nansur revering peacocks is some double-entendre for Conphas spending much of his life preening and admiring himself. 

So it was pointed out somewhere by Wilshire I believe that Cnaiur has a What do you see? thought when Moenhus burns away. 

Has it been pointed out that Cnaiur also has a What do you see? inner-monologue thought at least twice with respect to Kellhus in TDTCB?  I noticed that while perusing a reread.  Not sure what to make of it, but it seems potentially significant. 

I just have to say that when Kellhus asks "What is the No-God...what are the possibilities you've considered" of Moenghus and we get nothing, it quite agonizing.  At least to this reader.

OK, here is a brief rundown of the first dream in the series.

TDTCB
Chapter One
Midwinter, 4110 Year-of-the-Tusk, Carythusal


This is the chapter where Achamian is in the Worm meeting Geshrunni.  He begins to learn about the first gears in the Holy War starting to turn such as that the Grandmaster of the SS has been assassinated by the Cishaurim.  Then Geshrunni goes out and perhaps meets a Consult agent.

Achamian's dream begins as Seswatha.  This is one of the dreams where Seswatha sees Celmomas struck down.  Seswatha pleads with him not to die.

     "Yes!  Yes.  The darkness of the No-God is not all-encompassing.  The Gods see us yet, dear friend. They are distant, but  i can hear them galloping across the skies. I can hear them cry out to me."
     "You cannot die, Celmomas! You must not die!"
     The High King shook his head, stilled him with tender eyes. "They call to me. They say that my end is not the world's end. That burden, they say, is yours. Yours, Seswatha."

The back-and-forth between Acha-as-Seswatha and Celmomas goes on a bit longer.  The stuff that will presumably become the Celmomian Prophecy is uttered by Celmomas. He dies, and Acha-as-Seswatha cried out that their king is dead.  Achamian then wakes up in a dark room.  Achamian weeps upon waking, and the POV section ends with him thinking that he hears a dog or a man howling in the distance.

Geshrunni is killed in the next section of the same chapter.

It then goes back to Achamian waking again with his head buzzing still from dreams of the Apocalypse.

He scribbles some of these notes:

Fords of Tywanrae.  Same.
Burning of the Library of Sauglish. Different. See my face and not S in mirror.

A curious discrepancy What could it mean? For a moment, he pondered the sour futility of the question.  Then he remembered awakening in the heart of the night. After a pause, he added:

Death and Prophecy of Anasurimbor Celmomas. Same.

But was it the same? In detail, certainly, but there had been a disturbing immediacy to the dream--enough to wake him. After scratching out "Same," he wrote:

Different. More powerful.

OK, so there's a sample of what I had in mind, or something like it.  I think it would be really cool if we could get all of the dreams down in one thread eventually to see if any ideas are revealed when they're all analyzed together. 

Akka's dreams are usually at the start his POV, which should make them easy to find.  At least in the cases where his POV begins with the chapter.

Yeah, at the very least, I should be able to point out where they're located tonight and/or tomorrow.  I think they nearly always kick of a POV section if not a chapter. 

I agree, Wilshire, that it would be ideal to note all of that detail, but we should also probably note whatever info we're given about which year it is and which season it is and whatnot...which I think we get at the beginning of each chapter.  Might help speculation about what else is going on in the world at the time.

Thank, Wilshire - That final sequence with Moe and Nayu...I can't help but think that there's something subtle that the reader is supposed to pick up, but I can't put my finger on what. 

Very curious to me that Nayu thinks for a moment that the God itself looks back at him as Moe burns away.  Is that something to do with Moe?  Something to do with what happens to Psukhari when they get choraed?  Something to do with the Outside?  Not sure, but I swear there's something there...

That said...for some reason I want Nayu's arc to end where it appeared to have ended.  Hope he's not the No-God.

Somn - That is really outstanding.  Not at all dissimilar to how I picture both races in my head when I read.  Cheers.