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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] The Survivors
« on: July 12, 2017, 06:20:15 pm »
It's blink and you miss it, but Kayutas carries Serwa's body ("her sister's body") out of the Ark as Mimara is climbing up towards No-Kellhus. From that I'm assuming she's dead but Kayutas was still alive at that moment.
I'm more interested in what happened to the Sun Lance, as, with the Heron Spear still MIA (although I suspect the Scylvendi may have it somewhere) that could be quite useful.
I'm more interested in what happened to the Sun Lance, as, with the Heron Spear still MIA (although I suspect the Scylvendi may have it somewhere) that could be quite useful.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Thoughts about the overall story, ending etc
« on: July 09, 2017, 11:08:15 pm »
Yeah, can we drop the spoiler tags now? We're like 6 pages into the thread, no-one's coming down this rabbit hole unless they want to get spoiled.
Anyway, interesting theory from Reddit:
Anyway, interesting theory from Reddit:
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Thoughts about the overall story, ending etc
« on: July 09, 2017, 08:03:53 pm »
Negatory:
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Thoughts about the overall story, ending etc
« on: July 08, 2017, 11:47:26 pm »Quote
I think there is a load of subtlety that people have missed in TAE
I think there is a fine line between subtlety, obtuseness and actually just unclear writing. The subtle elements are things people will be arguing about for years, but there's also stuff that is just not parsed very well (I get the impression that, with his old editor gone, TGO and TUC suffered from a lack of outside editing by someone really well-versed in the series). The ending of TGO suffered from that but there's a lot of it in TUC as well.
I think the general reaction to TUC is a lot of people impressed with how deep down the well Bakker went, mixed with bafflement at how much stuff they thought would be resolved but wasn't even addressed.
The other main complaint I've seen is that:
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: July 08, 2017, 11:39:02 pm »
If Theliopa was supposed to be 16 in TJE, that's clearly gone out the window in TUC: she was born when Kellhus and Esment were sojourning in the White-Sun Palace in Nenciphon, which was in 4113. So she's 19 at the start of TJE and Serwa would logically be 1-2 years younger than her.
Bakker does have form for this kind of retcon. The Swayal Compact's HQ moves from being in Iothiah in TJE to the ruined mansion of Illisseru in TUC as well.
Bakker does have form for this kind of retcon. The Swayal Compact's HQ moves from being in Iothiah in TJE to the ruined mansion of Illisseru in TUC as well.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Thoughts about the overall story, ending etc
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] A poll for the people who've read TUC
« on: July 08, 2017, 12:22:47 am »Quote
In TJE it is explained she had the sight before getting pregnant.
The JE is not bound by linear chronology: you get it because you are pregnant at some point in your timeline and pre-ordained to get it, and you then have it backwards and forwards in time.
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: July 08, 2017, 12:19:54 am »This is some impressive work, and it came in quite handy as a more detailed "What Has Come Before" that doesn't take as long as a proper reread.(as I don't have the time to do one before reading TUC, it helped me remember some things that weren't as fresh in myy mind anymore)
Just one question, though, are you getting some of the dates for events and birth/death years directly from the TUC appendices? Because I don't recall, for instance, ever being given exact birth years for Achamian, Esmenet, Kellhus, and most of the Anasûrimbor children. Sorry if I'm being nitpicky, but I have an interest in timelines, and figuring out everyone's ages is kind of an obsessive thing of mine. I remember Achamian, Cnaïur, Esmenet, Serwë, etc. had their ages stated in the appendices for the first series, but it did span a few years (4109-4112, right?) so that wasn't exact.
I went with the best guesses from the Wiki, most of them based on logical extrapolation (i.e. Theliopa being born during Kellhus and Esmenet's sojourn in Nenciphon). When you realise Serwa is only 17 (at best) in TAE, it's a bit of a jarring moment
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC SPOILERS] Thoughts about the overall story, ending etc
« on: July 06, 2017, 07:09:01 pm »
On this point:
I'm confused why people think it's the Consult messing around for no reason. Much more likely (for me):
As for the final book of the series, I think it would amuse Bakker to call it:
Is there a date for the post-TUC Scott AMA? I know one was in the planning stages.
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I'm confused why people think it's the Consult messing around for no reason. Much more likely (for me):
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As for the final book of the series, I think it would amuse Bakker to call it:
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Is there a date for the post-TUC Scott AMA? I know one was in the planning stages.
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 29, 2017, 09:44:37 pm »
I suddenly realised I left out a rather important map (the one of the Holy War) from the PDF, so I went back and re-added it. I also added the List of Cants to the glossary, as that seemed like a good match for it (in the sorcerous schools section). Updated version in the original link.
And yes, I will update it again to account for the events of TUC (although that won't be needed until TSTCBN is due, so probably a couple of years away).
And yes, I will update it again to account for the events of TUC (although that won't be needed until TSTCBN is due, so probably a couple of years away).
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 14, 2017, 10:12:45 pm »
Done a final (final?) update with Madness's feedback and some other feedback incorporated. I swapped out the front image, because it was suggested that Kellhus isn't the be-all and end-all of Earwa. Also it meant I could use that image rather than Jason's earlier (and less detailed) one for the Unification Wars chapter.
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 12, 2017, 05:16:23 pm »
The final release version, barring Scott or Madness raising major issues, is here.
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 10, 2017, 09:41:56 pm »Quote
For my money, though, I find it likely that during the Shamanic period (or pre-Kiunnat, pre-Tusk) humans simply attributed God-head to different aspects of their lives and eventually arrived at that nice round hundred number.
I'm intrigued by the theory that the Nonmen inadvertently created the Hundred (the whole "99 sons" thing from TGO) but we need more information on that.
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General Earwa / Re: History of Earwa from Wert
« on: June 10, 2017, 06:49:08 pm »
Sure.
The God-of-Gods existed in the Kunniat tradition as well as an "abstract placeholder". It's unclear if the Shamans believed only in the God of Gods and the Prophets then introduced the Hundred (or the Hundred seized on the Prophets to seize the hearts and souls of men), or if the Hundred existed in the Shamanic period (pre-Tusk, pre-Hundred) also.
The God-of-Gods existed in the Kunniat tradition as well as an "abstract placeholder". It's unclear if the Shamans believed only in the God of Gods and the Prophets then introduced the Hundred (or the Hundred seized on the Prophets to seize the hearts and souls of men), or if the Hundred existed in the Shamanic period (pre-Tusk, pre-Hundred) also.
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