[Cüréthañ]

Latest dip into the crackpot trance has suggested that the Judging Eye may be caused by Kellhus 'riding' Mimara's soul.
Consider what K's dunyain vision would be like if you were ruled by emotion.  Galian's butterfly seems like a great example of the kind of thing Kellhus would unearth from someone's past and use to rule them...

Following deeper into the Crackpotoverse, I have divined that Maggot (Mim's unborn) is probably Seswatha reincarnate.  Celmoman prophecy, Akka as a dad and all that. 

[Wilshire]

Maybe, the only issue it that she sees flames and halos and shit. A lot of the other descriptions I could see fitting into some emotional reading of Kell's 'vision' though. An interesting idea.


Maggot? that is a sad name for a baby.
Celmoman prophecy specifically dictates that Seswatha's passing is the end of the world, right? So that leads me to a few conclusions.
All of the schoolmen with Seswatha in them die, then the end of the world is neigh. That means, now, that all of the Mandati and Swali would have to be wiped out. Could be possible, but I don't see that happening until golgotterath, Kellhus has big plans for the Swali at least.
Though if that did happen, and then Akka also died, that would be the end of Seswatha.
Or, maybe the baby is Seswatha and will be born about the same time that all the schoolmen are killed, leaving only 1 Seswatha... but that sounds more like a Harbinger kind of thing.

I have no clue really, but one thing is for sure, that baby is going to be important.

[Cüréthañ]

It's interesting how only Mimara can rouse Cleric's true persona.  Despite Akka thinking he knows best how to deal with the nonman (as usual), it is Mim who succesfully connects with him as a person 'in the now'.  (He remebers her name, she divines his pre-Incariol identity - Akka is always Seswatha).  Her actions in doing so are always 'instinctive'  i.e. they arise from her DTCB - and of course, she is conditioned.

Maggot seemed apropos - that's what Pokwas and Galian refer to him as.  But yeh, not a nice name 
Be super creepy if he comes out complete with Seswatha's memories - like the Mau'dib's sister from Dune (I forget her name).

[Wilshire]

Alia, that poor, crazy child.

[What Came Before]

Pre-born! The Qirri Trance!

[Wilshire]

Ah the poison that makes strong.
The parallels of spice and melange are all there, we need a prescient adult-child quirri addict.

[What Came Before]

With Cu'jara Cinmoi's memories ? Or Esmenet's Last Scion Line? Or Seswatha, if Achamian truly is teh fathered...

[Wilshire]

I'd settle for any one of them. Who knows how far back any of those bloodlines go. Ancestral memories.

[Cüréthañ]

Mandati are forbiden to have wives iirc... 
Mimara is of the Few
Remember that the ability to use sorcery was always hereditary among the quya.  Something to do with qirri use? or maybe that both parents were magic users.
Perhaps Maggot will sing the psukhe with his/her first cry?

I'll go with Seswatha's memories seeing as Akka/Kellhus has already shook them loose and there seems to be a strong emphasis on paternal lineage in Earwa.

[Callan S.]

Born blind?

TELL ME, WHAT DO YOU SEED?

[Cüréthañ]

If it has Seswatha's memories already, then it can grasp the gnosis as soon as it can 'sing'.

@ Callan;
We're all blind in the womb, no? 
That's another option - straight from the womb and into the carapace, held in an eternal inversion of birthing to block the circuit of souls, Maggot becomes the no-god.

[What Came Before]

Dune Spoiler:

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In the Dune series, all the Bene Gesserit undergo basically an overdoes of spice that unlocks genetic memory. This happens to Paul's sister, Alia, and his twins, Leto and Ghanima in the womb; all are pre-born and have access to the subjective experiences of all their genetic ancestors... matrilineally? The risk is abomination, in which one of those dated-memories takes control of the biologically original personality.

[Borric]

For me Seswatha’s return will be through Akka.
He is experiencing more from the dreams than any other Mandati has ever has.
Maybe Maggot will turn out to be Nau-Cayûti 

[What Came Before]

I can actually totally see Achamian reaching Gandalfian proportions in age (common, Achamian the White). Maybe in TSTSNBN Achamian's like 150?

Though, to be fair, whenever these conversations pick up I always segue in my mind to Drenai and Gemmell's fictive (Waylander or Skilgannon) tropes, mostly.

I agree, if Seswatha the persona returns, it will be in the vessel Achamian.