I saw in another thread that you visit TVTropes, so I think I can accurately say that both Gemma and Juice and firmly in "Karma Houdini" territory at his point lol.
Ugh. This is going to get me ranting about
Wolf of Wall Street, again.
Although it is an interesting debate, whether auteurs and creators are somehow obligated to give their audiences a sense of cathartic retribution in regards to characters that have committed heinous atrocities. This was a hot topic when Breaking Bad was ending, was Walter White supposed to be punished for all the crimes he committed to satisfy the audience's desire for justice? I can roll either way honestly, whether Gemma gets off scot-free but has to live with all she's done or if she goes to prison or what have you. It still stands though, that the relationship between an artist and his audience can be a unstable one.
I'm not sure about the moral trajectory of fiction. It definitely exists, is studied, etc. These life circumstances (like P. Earth) are in a state of flux and so one can never be sure what authors think they should outline for those who consume and digest their creations.
Sutter strikes me as someone who is going to stay true to what seems to be the Biker narrative - and probably push it even further.
It ends bloody and if anyone is left to gain revelation from tale... it won't be someone who remains (or maybe never was in the first place) SAMCRO. Most bikers who get "out" and are morally redeemable (there's that line again) enough to write Biker auto/biographies about, aren't riding anymore.
That actually gives the Hunter S. Thompson version a strange angle. Not only is he a journalist, thus an observer, he's also a participant and someone who could probably calmly and happily do a Rust Cohle (True Detective, hope you are watching) amount of drugs with bikers and still turn in the story.
I will note the titles of those books and biographies, hopefully I'll get to read them at some point although it won't be until the summer after I'm back from University.
Real cool. I'm interested in your studies. SA academic connects
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Also, amusingly enough, I just saw on Wikipedia that although S7 is going to be the last for SOA, apparently Sutter is in talks with FX to do a prequel series in the late 60's about the founding of SAMCRO with young JT and Clay as the protagonists. We'll wait and see what comes of it.
My friend is convinced that Sutter won't do it, after sampling the evidence (though allegedly Sutter went so far sometime after last season as to say outright that he wouldn't be doing the prequel for many years, if at all).
I'd love to see the prequel. That tension between Jax and Clay during S1 and S2 (and really up until Jax takes power from Clay) is of the best aspects of the show... and we'd get to see it play out for real in a prequel between Clay and JT. And we'd get to see Otto at the table
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Writers have a hard time giving the moral of the tale as 'some shit happened and people made best as they could do with how that turned out, as previously depicted'. Let alone their audience, I'm not sure most writers are ready for that.
Not sure you've watched, Callan, but you've strayed into spoilers
. Sutter is not a normal writer. The character he plays on the show, Otto mentioned above, is majorly fucked up and still one of the few (maybe) redeemable characters on the show - and that would take a hefty qualifying argument by someone (Sutter used to say that he was going end the show with Otto getting out of jail...)
