[ThoughtsOfThelli]

Apparently... (TUC spoilers):

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Iëva's age (and death) was retconned, as the TUC glossary gives her date of birth as 2112 and her date of death as 2140. I'm not going to lie, this disappoints me quite a bit. It's not, of course, that I liked the idea of a 8-year-old girl being forced into a marriage, but a younger Iëva made for a much better story in my opinion. She could be read as a more morally ambiguous (and interesting) character, a "victim making victims" like H put it, instead of just a wicked and jealous wife, and now she's even been retconned as the older one (by 7 years!) with Nau-Cayûti as a child groom. Maybe I was reading too much into the date given in TWLW, but I still preferred it to this one.
And if she was indeed executed for Nau-Cayûti's murder as is now stated in the glossary, then how could she have been around to poison En-Kaujalau in 2141? Slow-acting poison?  This seems to be like a retcon that really wasn't needed, her death date could have still been 2141 or 2142 so that this supposed murder could work.

[themerchant]

When this topic first started. I checked the wiki and found it had 2112 as her birth year anyway. This predates TUC release (i think) I wonder where they got that date from?

[ThoughtsOfThelli]

When this topic first started. I checked the wiki and found it had 2112 as her birth year anyway. This predates TUC release (i think) I wonder where they got that date from?

It was probably someone who had early access to a copy of TUC, as the only date we had before was 2125 in TWLW appendices (and prior to that we had no dates at all).

[H]

When this topic first started. I checked the wiki and found it had 2112 as her birth year anyway. This predates TUC release (i think) I wonder where they got that date from?

Indeed, I think it was Wert who edited it when he finished reading his TUC ARC.

I have mixed feelings on it being ret-conned.  On the one hand, it was interesting as it was, but on the other, possibly just a relic of previous drafts.  As, possibly, was the idea of her poisoning others.  I mean, that part never really made much sense, unless she was further goaded by the Consult.

Who knows though, I guess maybe we can only hope for an Atrocity Tale...

[ThoughtsOfThelli]

Indeed, I think it was Wert who edited it when he finished reading his TUC ARC.

It most likely was, yes (or someone else with an early copy? can't remember who else had one). I think I did see that date on the wiki shortly after creating this thread, but back then I couldn't know it came from TUC.

I have mixed feelings on it being ret-conned.  On the one hand, it was interesting as it was, but on the other, possibly just a relic of previous drafts.  As, possibly, was the idea of her poisoning others.  I mean, that part never really made much sense, unless she was further goaded by the Consult.

Who knows though, I guess maybe we can only hope for an Atrocity Tale...

I also think it doesn't make that much sense for Iëva to have poisoned En-Kaujalau. Seems like the Consult could have killed him via other means if they really wanted him dead, and it would be much harder for her to do so, it wasn't like she had access to him like she did to her own husband. And I think they already had what they wanted from her with Nau-Cayûti, anyway.
It's possible that her involvement in En-Kaujalau's death was something fully thought up by later historians, given that there is controversy about it (while everyone seems to accept that she did indeed poison Nau-Cayûti).

I'd love to see an Atrocity Tale featuring Iëva, but I know I shouldn't get my hopes up too much...