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« Reply #255 on: May 10, 2020, 10:44:13 pm »
I think it is safe to say that no one understands quantum mechanics.
  — Theoretical physicist Richard Feynman (1967)

The  theory  has,  indeed,  two  powerful  bodies  of  fact  in  its  favour,  and  only  one  thing  against  it.  First,  in  its  favour  are  all  the  marvellous  agreements  that  the  theory  has  had  with  every  experimental  result  to  date.  Second,  it  is  a  theory  of  astonishing  and  profound  mathematical  beauty.  The  one  thing  that  can  be  said  against it is that it makes absolutely no sense!
  — Mathematical physicist Sir Roger Penrose (1986)

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« Reply #256 on: May 17, 2020, 10:58:45 pm »
"The Greeks had no depth psychology and psychopathology such as we have. They had myths. And we have no myths as such--instead, depth psychology & psychopathology. Therefore, psychology shows myths in modern dress and myths show our depth psychology in ancient dress."
    -James Hillman

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« Reply #257 on: May 27, 2020, 01:49:51 am »
"The Greeks had no depth psychology and psychopathology such as we have. They had myths. And we have no myths as such--instead, depth psychology & psychopathology. Therefore, psychology shows myths in modern dress and myths show our depth psychology in ancient dress."
    -James Hillman

La Lune au plain de nuict sur le haut mont,
Le nouueau sophe d’un seul cerueau la veu:
Par ses disciples estre Immortel semond,
Yeux au mydi, en seins mains corps au feu.
 —Nostradamus, Quatrain 4, 31

The Moon in the full of night over the high mountain,
The new philosopher sees this with a unique brain:
By his disciples summoned to be immortal,
Eyes to the zenith, hands in the breasts of burning bodies.

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« Reply #258 on: June 03, 2020, 03:45:24 am »
'Materialism ... is the philosophy of the subject who forgets himself in his calculation.'
  – Schopenhauer

“It is an odd sort of intellect which ranks matter before itself and attributes real being to matter but not to itself.” -Plotinus

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« Reply #259 on: June 03, 2020, 07:19:59 am »
"Given the opportunity, humanity will use science to explain themselves out of existence entirely."
- Francis Buck
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« Reply #260 on: June 18, 2020, 10:12:51 am »
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"Let me tell it to you like this; inside one's head there is a brain. Now that brain is blind, deaf, and dumb. It can only go about animalistic procedures, and it has no real knowledge of what it feels like. For an illustration let us say that the very high entity so-and-so wanted to experience what it was like to be burned. Well, in his own body he would not be able to get down to the rough, crude vibrations necessary for one to feel the burn, but in this lower entity body—yes, burns can be felt, so the super-entity enters the substitute body and then the necessary conditions occur and perhaps the super-entity can get to know what it is like through the experience of its substitute. The body can see, the brain cannot.”
- Tibetan Sage
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« Reply #261 on: June 18, 2020, 12:53:44 pm »
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"Let me tell it to you like this; inside one's head there is a brain. Now that brain is blind, deaf, and dumb. It can only go about animalistic procedures, and it has no real knowledge of what it feels like. For an illustration let us say that the very high entity so-and-so wanted to experience what it was like to be burned. Well, in his own body he would not be able to get down to the rough, crude vibrations necessary for one to feel the burn, but in this lower entity body—yes, burns can be felt, so the super-entity enters the substitute body and then the necessary conditions occur and perhaps the super-entity can get to know what it is like through the experience of its substitute. The body can see, the brain cannot.”
- Tibetan Sage

Nice, to me, these are notions of "extended mind" and "embodied consciousness," which I think I am with.  But I always fail going full panpsychist though.
I am a warrior of ages, Anasurimbor. . . ages. I have dipped my nimil in a thousand hearts. I have ridden both against and for the No-God in the great wars that authored this wilderness. I have scaled the ramparts of great Golgotterath, watched the hearts of High Kings break for fury. -Cet'ingira

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« Reply #262 on: June 20, 2020, 12:09:06 am »
And where was Atman to be found...but in one's own self, in its innermost part, in its indestructible part, which everyone had in himself?

But where, where was this self, this innermost part, this ultimate part?
 -Herman Hesse

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« Reply #263 on: June 23, 2020, 12:32:25 am »
And where was Atman to be found...but in one's own self, in its innermost part, in its indestructible part, which everyone had in himself?

But where, where was this self, this innermost part, this ultimate part?
 -Herman Hesse

Any manifestation, any functioning, any witnessing, can only take place in duality. There has to be a subject and an object, they are two, but they are not two, they are two ends of the same thing. When consciousness stirs, duality arises. There are millions of objects, but each object,when it sees another, assumes the subjectivity of the Absolute ....
 -Nisargadatta Maharaj

Each one of us, as a phenomenon, is merely an appearance in the consciousness of those who perceive us, and, therefore, what we appear to be is a phenomenon — temporal, finite and perceptible to the senses, whereas what we are, what we have always been and always will be, without name and form, is the noumenon — timeless,spaceless imperceptible being.
 -Ramesh Balsekar

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« Reply #264 on: June 23, 2020, 11:25:32 pm »
...there’s no such thing as “technology” in the singular, only technologies in the plural. The notion that technology is a single monolithic thing is a convenient bit of mystification, used to hide the fact that our society, like all others, picks and chooses among available technological options, implementing some and neglecting others. This needs hiding because most of these choices are made by influential members and groups within the political class for their own private profit, very often at the expense of the rest of the public. Wrapping the process in a smokescreen of impersonal inevitability is a convenient way to keep awkward questions from being raised via what remains of the democratic institutions of an earlier age.

Greer, John Michael. The Blood of the Earth: An essay on magic and peak oil . Scarlet Imprint / Bibliothèque Rouge. Kindle Edition.

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« Reply #265 on: June 24, 2020, 03:51:20 am »
...there’s no such thing as “technology” in the singular, only technologies in the plural. The notion that technology is a single monolithic thing is a convenient bit of mystification, used to hide the fact that our society, like all others, picks and chooses among available technological options, implementing some and neglecting others. This needs hiding because most of these choices are made by influential members and groups within the political class for their own private profit, very often at the expense of the rest of the public. Wrapping the process in a smokescreen of impersonal inevitability is a convenient way to keep awkward questions from being raised via what remains of the democratic institutions of an earlier age.

Greer, John Michael. The Blood of the Earth: An essay on magic and peak oil . Scarlet Imprint / Bibliothèque Rouge. Kindle Edition.

"Which is greater, the tears you have shed while transmigrating across lives & wandering this long, long time — crying & weeping from being joined with what is displeasing, being separated from what is pleasing — or the water in the four great oceans? Which is greater, the blood you have shed from having your heads cut off while transmigrating & wandering this long, long time, or the water in the four great oceans?

From an in-construable beginning comes lifetimes of transmigration. A beginning point is not evident, though beings hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving are transmigrating and wandering on. Just as a stick thrown up in the air lands sometimes on its base, sometimes on its side, sometimes on its tip; in the same way, beings hindered by ignorance and fettered by craving, transmigrating and wandering on, sometimes go from this world to another world, sometimes come from another world to this.

Long have you thus experienced suffering, experienced pain, experienced loss, swelling the cemeteries — enough to become disenchanted with all fabrications, enough to become dispassionate, enough to be released."
 -Siddhārtha Gautama

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« Reply #266 on: June 28, 2020, 02:44:16 am »
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"The meaning of the water bearer for Aquarius is that the star sign can carry the emotions of others and not be influenced by them. This has to do with their quest for higher truth. They are able to carry emotions to reach an understanding of the truth. Aquarius bears the water, it can carry the water, or it can pour out the water with their mind. Aquarius has the ability to do this because carrying or transmitting water, which represents our emotions, happens through language. And, the Air signs, such as Aquarius, represent language. Aquarius is able to express emotions but it’s not the emotions -- or the 'water' -- itself."

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« Reply #267 on: June 28, 2020, 10:02:33 pm »
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"The meaning of the water bearer for Aquarius is that the star sign can carry the emotions of others and not be influenced by them. This has to do with their quest for higher truth. They are able to carry emotions to reach an understanding of the truth. Aquarius bears the water, it can carry the water, or it can pour out the water with their mind. Aquarius has the ability to do this because carrying or transmitting water, which represents our emotions, happens through language. And, the Air signs, such as Aquarius, represent language. Aquarius is able to express emotions but it’s not the emotions -- or the 'water' -- itself."

I am very curious about this turn toward the Zodiac...I kinda feel like there are RPG aspects to the Zodiac that haven't been properly explored/exploited...

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« Reply #268 on: July 01, 2020, 05:48:51 am »
Hah, in a way the Elder Scrolls games do this (can't remember exactly, there's definitely part of your characters build that involves an element of this). But, I actually think you're spot on in regards to IRL application. I've never thought of it in the RPG context but it totally fits. I definitely could see that part of the (at least western) Zodiac was/is like having a "class" in life of sorts, albeit an entirely optional one lol (of course in the past it was likely to have been taken much more seriously, depending on the individual).

This also makes me think of the Tibetan Lamas, who are alleged to have incredibly complex astrology with individual horoscopes being a massive undertaking. And since everything in Tibetan Buddhism is turned up to 11, they also claim that the zodiacs used by most of the world are all useless, since the skies they're based on are ancient and don't actually correspond with present times. The Tibetans update theirs...which, while interesting, does not actually explain how one can determine with great accuracy when and where someone will be reincarnated lol. (Not to mention the reincarnation itself)

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« Reply #269 on: July 09, 2020, 09:11:25 am »
"For all that modern Western civilization draws from ancient Greece, there is a subtle yet profound difference in their perspective of history. The Classical Greek worldview may be characterized by appreciation for the beauty of the human body and mind, and crucially, a preference for the local and the present moment. The Greeks, as yet untainted by the traumas of Roman Catholic oppression, were a fundamentally ahistorical people. That Classical culture -- not unlike the Hindhu or Far East even today -- did not feel so strongly a pang of anxious, borderline existential terror when confronted with a new, previously undocumented event or discovery. But when Christian ideology permeated Western thought, this natural flexibilty was utterly lost. History became a largely fixed narrative, tweaked gingerly here or there but never radically renovated, and so it was rendered intrinsically dogmatic. And yet to this very day, when the West has by all appearances become secular, rational, and scientifically-minded, there remains a deeply ingrained and vestigial mindset of the Biblical historical predisposition, a useless relic that has yet to be cast aside for no other reason than that too few even recognize that it still lingers at all. Should one dare to point out this tragic irony, the proposition is met inevitably with outright denial, unthinkingly bereft of introspection or self-awareness, and in-so evoking the very same non-scientific, irrational, childlike attitude that is otherwise so easily recognized as the identifying characteristic of the staunch, Abrahamic worldview in any other context."