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Where'd you pick up that yardstick? Not mockery, interested.

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I vaguely seem to remember RSB saying something like he added the salting because of the biblical implications (it is cool imo) but never really had a cause and effect reasoning behind it.
Somewhere...  maybe...

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Where'd you pick up that yardstick? Not mockery, interested.

Eh, my vague understanding of complicated math as well of my background in science. Like how "germ theory" or "atomic theory" remain Theory, despite the thousands of proofs that can be seen or shown, etc. Like when those idiots thought they broke the light speed limit with their neutrinos, everyone was 'like oh shit Einstein is wrong!', even though proofs and implementation of his theory of relativity have been around for decades.

To me its basically a rule of thumb since I don't have enough absolute understanding in the math behind the statement to say that its an absolute fact. A fun fact taken from my more intelligent friends hard work, forced into a palatable one liner by my own guile and experience.

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OK, this is pretty crackpot, but would a body without water not turn to dust or...salt?  Is the Cish's power not...water? 

It's just a random thought, but I wondered if the Cish are right about the Solitary God than maybe the appropriate punishment for sinful sorcerers would be an absence of water.

Pretty unlikely, I know.  Probably not the mechanism the Aporos would hinge on.

Also, a random thought.  Do you think Bakker named him Fane because he was profane to the Inrithi as a heathen/heretic?

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That nuance could be seen as a bonus, but I believe 'fane' is a word for a type of temple as well.

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If the god lies dormant within individuals (as has been noted in the No-god thread) and is dependent on the eyes of its host souled creature to be able to have perception, could the blindness of the Cishaurim be the key to their magic not resulting in damnation?

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That witness is crucial, Galbrod? Interesting...

More evidence for the pure dispensation of the Solitary God's own Faith Power!

I just can't get myself to trust Kellhus' explanation to Achamian about the Psukhe in TTT. Though, Kellhus also uses witnessing as a chief metaphor in the Imprompta sessions in TWP. And it fits with the watcher/watched circuit...

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Yeah - Even though I have no well-formulated theory going at the moment, I have been wondering about the No-God's lack of sight-perception and how it could relate to the Cishaurim's blinding so as to better perceive the Solitary God.

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Except its mostly working as the opposite effect that all the other blind men in Earwa have. Where the no-god is blind and cannot see, all the other blind folks seem to have profound sight .

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No-god is BBT personified in Earwa?
Whereas Fane/Psukhe is the 'awakened' who percieves via God?

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No-god is BBT personified in Earwa?
Whereas Fane/Psukhe is the 'awakened' who percieves via God?

Yeah - Maybe...something like that. 


The NG doesn't know what it doesn't know, it would seem.  It's blind to what it's blind about. 


I'm going to look like such a fool when it turns out that Fane was dead wrong.  I've been harping on this too much for karma not to come back.

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I've been pitching the Cishaurim as morally upright for awhile too, Trisk. Both digging that grave.

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I've been pitching the Cishaurim as morally upright for awhile too, Trisk. Both digging that grave.

Yeah - Another factor for me is how we've learned as the AE trilogy has gone on just how much Bakker has used the layers of revelation technique.  So after PoN it would have been easy to dismiss the Cishaurim as the sorcery-priests who happened to be on the wrong side of Kellhus and nothing more.  Nothing more to see here.

But now w/ Meppa back and the layers of revelation becoming even more clear it occurs to me that Bakker totally would do something like obscure their significance in the first series only to have them really matter down the stretch (in some way).

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I'm going to look like such a fool when it turns out that Fane was dead wrong.  I've been harping on this too much for karma not to come back.

For what it is worth, Bakker has already hinted several times that Fane was wrong. The most notable examples are the homology between Inrithi theology, which makes the Hundred "aspects" of the God, and the Dunyainic concept of the Legion of the soul, and the conversation between Maithanet and Esmenet (with Theliopa as well) during the skin spy interogation in TJE, in which Theli says that the Tractate describes the gods as opposing the will of the God in several passages. Fanim theology seems overly simplified in terms of what we know of Earwa; it's description of the solitary God reminds me of Akka's protestation to Cnauir that "My soul is my own! I stand apart!". We all know how true that turned out to be.

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I'm going to look like such a fool when it turns out that Fane was dead wrong.  I've been harping on this too much for karma not to come back.

For what it is worth, Bakker has already hinted several times that Fane was wrong. The most notable examples are the homology between Inrithi theology, which makes the Hundred "aspects" of the God, and the Dunyainic concept of the Legion of the soul, and the conversation between Maithanet and Esmenet (with Theliopa as well) during the skin spy interogation in TJE, in which Theli says that the Tractate describes the gods as opposing the will of the God in several passages. Fanim theology seems overly simplified in terms of what we know of Earwa; it's description of the solitary God reminds me of Akka's protestation to Cnauir that "My soul is my own! I stand apart!". We all know how true that turned out to be.

I'm not following the logic of your post.  I'm not saying you're wrong.  Just that I don't get it.  We know that there are aspects the God in the form of the Hundred, and we know that the Dunyain conceive of the Legion within our souls that they have to war with.  We also know what Kellhus tells the Nonman emissary that when he went to the Outside he saw the God splintered into a million pieces.  I don't think that any of this says who is right and wrong about who is damned and who is not.