TSACastsEpisode #3 - Relative Power Levels featuring Madness, Wilshire, Garet Jax, and SilentRoamer.
I realize these links don't always work for everyone and I apologize. Still trying to get podcast hosting sorted out (and it will be by next episode as we can't upload anymore doing it the haphazard way I am now) and once that settles, getting the iTunes page functioning properly will be my next focus.
Cheers - really fun episode, as always
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EDIT (Fer commentary):
- Lmao... "When Madness laughs" (GJ, you are two for two on the wrong ways to tease things from my mind
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- The knife and
the armour Mimara finds in WLW are sorcerous, I was wrongly corrected in the episode
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They find a shirt of ensorcelled mail, golden, as light as silk and as hard as nimil. Sheara, the Wizard calls it, "Sun-skin," a far antique gift from the School of Mihtrul.
- Lol, my relative time-keeping is flerwed (I mention we're nearing an hour and fifteen at about 51min).
- Lmao... last words "Someone end the recording at least?" *click*
EDIT (Fer Links):
The Cleric Suicides...The False Sun: Short Story -
Spoilers for TUC (as per blog notation)
Bakker Interview: Part 2 -
Graft notation;
major spoiler concerning the TuskThe Four Revelations of Cinial'jin: Short Story - Commentary on Nonmen heroes growing
Sorcery Thread: Page 10, Two Lists Ranking Sorcerous Powers
Aporos - finding quotes from ZTS:
Hello Shryke. Welcome to the board!
Save for some contact in Jek at the headwaters of the River Sayut, the Xuihianni, the Tribe left behind at the Breaking of the Gates, are entirely confined to Eanna.
Uroborian circle is fleshed out some in TTT, at least how the draft stands now. Sorcery all comes down to semantics, meanings, and practitioners of the Aporos specialize in aporetic, or paradoxical meanings.
The Aporos is something I want to flesh out further in future books. The basic idea is this: the Quya first developed the Aporos in the prosecution of their own intercine wars, but it was quickly forbidden. The arrival of the Inchoroi allowed several renegade Quya to pursue their sorcerous interrogations, leading to the production of tens of thousands of Chorae, which were used throughout the Cuno-Inchoroi wars.
The Aporos possesses a contradictory, or negative, semantics, and as such is able only to undo the positive semantics of things like the Gnosis, Psukhe, Anagogis - even the Daimos. Aporetic Cants have no other effect. Salting is actually a kind of side effect. I would rather wait until TTT comes out before discussing the metaphysics - it has to do with the Mark.
Good questions, all. Personally, I've always worried that the Chorae may come across as too ad hoc, as mere narrative conveniences that allow a happy (but not very credible) balance between the sorcerous and the non-sorcerous. But in point of fact, that role came after - the Chorae developed independently. From the outset, I've looked at each of the sorcerous branches in linguistic terms, as practices where language commands, rather than conforms to, reality. So the Anagogis turns on the semantic power of figurative analogies, the Gnosis turns on the semantic power of formal generalizations, the Psukhe turns on speaker intention, and so on. And much as language undoes itself in paradoxes, sorcery can likewise undo itself. The Aporos is this 'sorcery of paradox,' where the meanings that make sorcery possible are turned in on themselves to generate what might be called 'contradiction fields.'
Since the metaphysics of sorcery actually plays a significant role in TTT, it would probably be better to postpone a more in depth discussion until then.
The Chorae are actually sorcerous artifacts (of something called the 'Aporos'), manufactured prior to the Cuno-Inchoroi Wars (by Quya defectors) as a way for the Inchoroi to counter the sorcery of the Nonmen. The script inscribed across each embodies a contradiction that unravels the semantics of all known Cants - even those of the Aporos!
Kelmomas' VoiceBakker's Map-
Bakker's Comment concerning "Pixel Art"Bakker's Comment on Inrau being Damned:
This question really morphed!
Yes, Inrau IS damned. And this is the basis of his conversion. There's always hope that the scriptures just overlooked some kind of loophole, or that by praying real hard...
Part of the problem is that we see Inrau primarily through Achamian, and if you think about it, Achamian tends not to go into the details of his damnation - or that of any of those he loves. For instance, why doesn't he ever wonder about Inrau's soul? This omission becomes more and more explicit the more implicated Achamian becomes in Kellhus's world. Think of TTT. I wanted this to be the one thing he cannot grasp without the protection of vague intellectual abstraction.
EDIT (Fer Finish):
I'm always amazed at my brain's ability to keep track of all this stuff.
If I missed any links/follow-up information from the episode, let me know.
Again, cheers, it was great, looking forward to the future.
And a reminder -
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