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Damn. I hope my Judging Eye is on its way to Coles right now."And then he saw it... standing with the grace and proportion of an Ainoni vase, regarding him, the knife of its long beak folded against its neck. A stork, perched upon purpling dead as though upon a promontory of high stone, its snowy edges framed by bleached sky" (WLW, p513).Proportion, vase. Constrasting Sranc and sky...Something's up with the storks. But if they represent the Gods, why are they Holy for tracking Sranc, which are lies?
I dunno, could just be coincidence. Because we always get the stork view with Sorweel who is obsessed with the whole stork thing to begin with. There may be a lot of storks throughout the story that no one really cares about.
Well, Sakarpi culture reveres them as Holy... Sorweel reflects that City's indoctrination. I want clarification (not necessarily from you, though I'd be psyched if you had some to offer) about why Sakarpus considers them so? Is it just because they follow Sranc, thus leading the Horse-Lords in the hunt and Sakarpi culture reflects constantly repelling the Sranc? Is there a specific deity who holds them holy - like snakes (which is another weird one considering their use by the Cishaurim)?
Quote from: MadnessSomething's up with the storks. But if they represent the Gods, why are they Holy for tracking Sranc, which are lies?Because they actually follow the Sranc's victims, which are true?Perhaps a sign of some belicose god kinda getting an itch that he's/she's not seeing the whole picture?
Something's up with the storks. But if they represent the Gods, why are they Holy for tracking Sranc, which are lies?
Sranc don't have souls.Storks don't have souls.Why shouldn't storks be holy? And why shouldn't some Sakarpan ancestors or godlings be interested in storks stalking sranc?
Well, Porsparian tells Sorweel that the Goddess believes Sranc and the Horde are lies. So Yatwer doesn't care for them?But then Husyelt (sp?) and Gilgaol are the two most revered Hundred in Sakarpus.Perhaps, Storks do have souls. Proportionate souls... to the God of Gods?
Sooo....Would all the scalpers that have been warring against sranc for twenty years be off the radar of husyelt and gilgaol then? Would they be starving for attention because the warring men are not warring or hunting, so far as they can tell?
Quote from: lockesnowSooo....Would all the scalpers that have been warring against sranc for twenty years be off the radar of husyelt and gilgaol then? Would they be starving for attention because the warring men are not warring or hunting, so far as they can tell?just wondering off into, by the hundreds, and dieing for no reason.
I'm just tagging flags - flags & sufficiency, baby.Something is up. Maybe it reflects the persisting faith in the original Kiunnat beliefs - Inrithism certainly didn't take hold in Sakarpus or Atrithau.
I thought Zeum was a better example of the old faith. Ancestor veneration over the new gods etc.Comparitively free from the shadow of Golgotteroth and somewhat removed from the second apocalypse and the rise of Inrithism and the Kian.
I don't actually know that ancestor veneration is older than Inrithism...?I mean, in real life, old as death, likely - but in Earwa it seems like a way to circumvent the Gods judgement?
Well, its a common component - even amongst the Scylvendi, to some extent.
Quote from: CurethanI thought Zeum was a better example of the old faith.Ancestor veneration over the new gods etc.Back to your suggestion - the only new Gods are the God of Gods and the Solitary God. Again bearing my question. How could Zeum be a better representation of the Kunniat beliefs than Sakarpus?Remember, Leweth entirely dismisses the idea of a Latter Prophet at the beginning of TDTCB - a sample of Atrithau's beliefs. Zeum can't be entirely unaffected by Inrithism?
I thought Zeum was a better example of the old faith.Ancestor veneration over the new gods etc.
Zeum is on the other side of Kian, divided from them by the Carathay desert and the Atkondras mountains.I think it's safe to assume that the Satyothi settled there en masse after the five tribes came to Earwa and were quite happy to largely segregate themselves from the other tribes.The Scylvendi seperate them from the Kinnuit nations. I kind of assume that they have little to do with the Tusk, less to do with the Latter Prophet and their beliefs/traditions that parallel those of the Kinnuit would be those carried over from before the migration.For example, Zaranthinius' works are banned by the thousand temples (because they are openly critical of Inrithism) but are presumably openly available in Zeum.
Quote from: CurethanThe Scylvendi seperate them from the Kinnuit nations.I kind of assume that they have little to do with the Tusk, less to do with the Latter Prophet and their beliefs/traditions that parallel those of the Kinnuit would be those carried over from before the migration.This is what I don't understand... the Kiunnat are the beliefs of the Five Tribes, pre-Breaking of the Gates, enumerated on the Tusk?What else could Zeum believe?
The Scylvendi seperate them from the Kinnuit nations.I kind of assume that they have little to do with the Tusk, less to do with the Latter Prophet and their beliefs/traditions that parallel those of the Kinnuit would be those carried over from before the migration.
