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News/Announcements / Re: Scheduled Downtime
« Last post by H on June 30, 2020, 12:38:28 pm »Excellent, site seems vastly more responsive and quicker! Thanks again!
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] How did the Inchoroi come think Earwa was the promised land?
« Last post by H on June 30, 2020, 12:37:46 pm »@Khaine
Save for some nitpicking, this is pretty much my line of thinking.
One important thing to note is the fact that unarcane ground does, in fact, exist in Earwa, and the No-God famously avoided it.
I think we can actually sort of rectify this with the notion of Ark not working in Arcane situations. First, I think we just clarify that it is unlikely that Ark completely stopped functioning. I tend to think of it more as the AI (or, not so A I) that constituted Ark did not work under the Arcane conditions. That is, the "circuits" did not function.
So, when Ark crashes, many of Ark's various parts still function, there is simply no more intentionality, because the directive element (possibly the No-God apparatus itself) did not function. So, once "bootstrapped" with the Consult with an Earwa-compatible substitute "circuit" the opposite problem becomes the issue, an aversion to the Anarcane. In other words, it simply cannot function outside the particular circumstance of it's genesis, perhaps.
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] How did the Inchoroi come think Earwa was the promised land?
« Last post by SmilerLoki on June 30, 2020, 07:01:53 am »@Khaine
Save for some nitpicking, this is pretty much my line of thinking.
One important thing to note is the fact that unarcane ground does, in fact, exist in Earwa, and the No-God famously avoided it.
Save for some nitpicking, this is pretty much my line of thinking.
One important thing to note is the fact that unarcane ground does, in fact, exist in Earwa, and the No-God famously avoided it.
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News/Announcements / Re: Scheduled Downtime
« Last post by SovinNai on June 30, 2020, 01:52:54 am »Version upgrades applied successfully (as far as I can tell).
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News/Announcements / Re: Scheduled Downtime
« Last post by SovinNai on June 30, 2020, 01:41:51 am »Okay, things should be back to normal. Let me know if you encounter weirdness. I'm also going to apply some version upgrades to the forum software itself.
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News/Announcements / Re: Scheduled Downtime
« Last post by SovinNai on June 30, 2020, 12:59:50 am »Starting in a couple of minutes! See you all on the other side!
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The Unholy Consult / Re: [TUC Spoilers] How did the Inchoroi come think Earwa was the promised land?
« Last post by Khaine on June 29, 2020, 09:04:17 am »So I have this crazy theory about the Inchoroi.
The progenitors discovered through super advanced technology that they are damned. The idea that Ajoklis did it, is seductive but I don't buy it.
At the same time they figured out that they need to shut the Outside and the way of doing this is to reduce the population of a planet below a certain level. They kept doing that, but they kept failing because there was a catch. In order for the Outside to be shut, it had to be done in a certain way and the planet had to be fully arcane.
That certain way was the No-God. But the No-God could only work in a planet that was fully arcane and the connection to the Outside was the strongest. They found partially arcane planets and they did reduce the population to the required number but every time they failed. Because it wasn't just the number but also the way to achieve this. So finally they figured out that they needed to deploy a special tool, the No-God to shut the outside, but this could only happen in a planet which was arcane and where its inhabitant were proficient in the use of magic.
The Ark upon contact with Earwa malfunctioned and crashed because its design was not compatible with a fully arcane planet, causing its accidental crash. Remember it was constructed in a fully anarcane environment. During the fall and because of the great losses they suffered in the wars against Nomen, knowledge of the tekne of the No-God was "lost", that's why it too them so long to deploy him. Possibly the No-God needed some magic input in order to operate and without the ability of magic, they couldn't operate him.
At the same time crash landing on Earwa was a good thing, because the Inchoroi had finally arrived at an arcane planet, the promised land.
This OR the Inchoroi are just crazy psychopaths hell bent on killing other species out of lust and they merely use the excuse of redemption as an excuse, the rationalisation of rationalisations.
In any case, it is entirely possible that redemption the Inchie way is entirely false, because it has never been done and nobody really knows how it would work. In this sense it mirrors the elusive quest of the Dunyain to attain the absolute. The absolute is a mirage and so is redemption for all who join the crazy quest of the Inchies. They would be better off learning to meditate and follow the way of the Nonmen
And this in my mind sort of settles the most vexing question why was Earwa the promised land and how did they know?
The progenitors discovered through super advanced technology that they are damned. The idea that Ajoklis did it, is seductive but I don't buy it.
At the same time they figured out that they need to shut the Outside and the way of doing this is to reduce the population of a planet below a certain level. They kept doing that, but they kept failing because there was a catch. In order for the Outside to be shut, it had to be done in a certain way and the planet had to be fully arcane.
That certain way was the No-God. But the No-God could only work in a planet that was fully arcane and the connection to the Outside was the strongest. They found partially arcane planets and they did reduce the population to the required number but every time they failed. Because it wasn't just the number but also the way to achieve this. So finally they figured out that they needed to deploy a special tool, the No-God to shut the outside, but this could only happen in a planet which was arcane and where its inhabitant were proficient in the use of magic.
The Ark upon contact with Earwa malfunctioned and crashed because its design was not compatible with a fully arcane planet, causing its accidental crash. Remember it was constructed in a fully anarcane environment. During the fall and because of the great losses they suffered in the wars against Nomen, knowledge of the tekne of the No-God was "lost", that's why it too them so long to deploy him. Possibly the No-God needed some magic input in order to operate and without the ability of magic, they couldn't operate him.
At the same time crash landing on Earwa was a good thing, because the Inchoroi had finally arrived at an arcane planet, the promised land.
This OR the Inchoroi are just crazy psychopaths hell bent on killing other species out of lust and they merely use the excuse of redemption as an excuse, the rationalisation of rationalisations.
In any case, it is entirely possible that redemption the Inchie way is entirely false, because it has never been done and nobody really knows how it would work. In this sense it mirrors the elusive quest of the Dunyain to attain the absolute. The absolute is a mirage and so is redemption for all who join the crazy quest of the Inchies. They would be better off learning to meditate and follow the way of the Nonmen
And this in my mind sort of settles the most vexing question why was Earwa the promised land and how did they know?
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Philosophy & Science / Is there Ultimate Stuff and are thereUltimate Reasons?
« Last post by sciborg2 on June 29, 2020, 06:15:43 am »Is there Ultimate Stuff and are there Ultimate Reasons?
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In this essay, we reflect on two fundamental assumptions, the one philosophical and the other scientific. The first has been called the Principle of Sufficient Reason (PSR). This encapsulates the idea that there is (at least in principle) a complete explanation for everything that exists or happens. We argue that recent attempts in philosophy to undermine the PSR should be rejected on a combination of philosophical and scientific grounds, and PSR should be upheld. Secondly, we argue, from the assumption that PSR is true, that the quantum vacuum (QV) is not the most fundamental stuff that exists, and moreover that we can say something positive about the nature of the “more fundamental” stuff. We argue that these conclusions follow from the implications that PSR carries for the nature of scientific explanations applied within the framework of the model of Nature indicated by Systems Philosophy. We show that under PSR the indicated substance underlying the QV has promise for developing solutions to certain fundamental empirical puzzles in science such as the nature of dark energy and the foundations of consciousness.
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General Misc. / Re: What are you watching?
« Last post by sciborg2 on June 28, 2020, 10:14:07 pm »I've been meaning to look again at Avenue 5...your review seems mixed...would it make sense to start in the middle of it?
I blew through the John Wick movies and have come away convinced they are a prequel or sequel to the Matrix. They seem to purposely go out of their way to suggest video games, some of which I admit can be accidental or just thematic but other things - like passerbys being so NPC-ish they don't care about the bodies - seem deliberate....
I blew through the John Wick movies and have come away convinced they are a prequel or sequel to the Matrix. They seem to purposely go out of their way to suggest video games, some of which I admit can be accidental or just thematic but other things - like passerbys being so NPC-ish they don't care about the bodies - seem deliberate....
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General Misc. / Re: Quotes
« Last post by sciborg2 on June 28, 2020, 10:02:33 pm »Quote"The meaning of the water bearer for Aquarius is that the star sign can carry the emotions of others and not be influenced by them. This has to do with their quest for higher truth. They are able to carry emotions to reach an understanding of the truth. Aquarius bears the water, it can carry the water, or it can pour out the water with their mind. Aquarius has the ability to do this because carrying or transmitting water, which represents our emotions, happens through language. And, the Air signs, such as Aquarius, represent language. Aquarius is able to express emotions but it’s not the emotions -- or the 'water' -- itself."
I am very curious about this turn toward the Zodiac...I kinda feel like there are RPG aspects to the Zodiac that haven't been properly explored/exploited...
